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This is a supremely useful resource. I could spend hours cross-referencing all those musicians - it is endlessly fascinating. Very little attention has been paid in the past to the contribution of those wonderful musicians, unless it's somebody who has made a name perhaps as a jazzman outside films, or someone with some really startlingly original sounds such as Emil Richards. Come to think of it, even they never got the attention they deserved.
I think sometimes it's easy to forget that there are real people playing those instruments. We tend to concentrate on the compositional side of things, and we'll defend our favourite composers without really thinking about the principal cellists and the vast amount of experience they have on hundreds of films over many decades in some cases. I'll bet there are a lot of unheard of names out there who could tell a story or two about our beloved and not-so-beloved composers and conductors.
And then again, it's just a joy to click on a name you'd never heard of and realize you've got fifty CDs with that person on it.
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This is really cool. I like to take these lists and put them in the "lyrics" field of my iPod rips so I can peruse them while listening to the music.
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I always figured Louise DiTullio did a lot more, then realized I was counting all those Intradas and Vareses in there...It's a thing I check for now. I get a disk, and there in the flute section...
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I count 70-odd FSM CDs with Edgar Lustgarten on cello. I wonder if that's a record. What about the scores he played on which have not been released by FSM (!)
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You can see I'm putting off my responsibilities here - I just researched a bit of Lustgarten info, and gave up counting the number of NON-SOUNDTRACK albums he has appeared on - over 200 between 1950 and 2010!
I wonder how he had time to write all those crime novels (Ha Ha - it's another guy... I think).
Bye, must pretend I'm working.
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Just bumping this because we were swinging this way on the PELHAM thread, and it might be nice to develop it outside the gritty '70s idiom.
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I was "surprised" (I shouldn't have been) to see that Dom Frontiere is on the accordeon on WAR OF THE WORLDS/ WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE/ NAKED JUNGLE/ CONQUEST OF SPACE - well, probably on one of them only, but it's a communal credit on the Intrada double-doofer.
Genuinely surprised (maybe just through ignorance) to learn that that the very great jazzman Shelly Manne was the tympanist on Miklos Rozsa's KING OF KINGS.
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Dec 17, 2012 - 6:24 AM
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lexedo
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Graham, I am sure some of these listed musicians would surprise even the producers of the ST recordings.
Here are some other neat ones: Barney Kessel, guitar (Previn: All in a Night's Work); Bucky Pizzarelli, guitar (Hamlisch: Bananas); William Kraft, drums (Previn: Inside Daisy Clover); Lee Ritenour, guitar (C Bernstein: Gator); Shelley Manne, drums & Artie Kane, piano (Goldsmith: Step out of Line), Previn, piano and Mancini, orchestrator (North: Four Girls in Town).
I think the William Kraft entry is the fellow that scored "Avalanche" in the 70s.
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Dec 17, 2012 - 10:03 AM
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TR: I believe Mikael gave BTPOTA a listen, and he didn't think it was a Clavinet. Listen to the Alexander the Great, though, and you hear it there too. Mik really knows that stuff though.
Strange that no one before Previn Two for the Seesaw or Golden Arm gave musician credits on the records. KR's Previn CD reissue has the same credits as the LP, btw. I would have figured Mancini to at least show who the main soloists were.
You know who is a cool player that is everywhere (e.g., Goldsmith & Fielding) on our scores: Joe Porcaro, the drummer. He's the father of the guys that started the band, Toto, and they are all excellent players as well.
A few personal "bass" favs: Milton Kestenbaum and Chuck Demonico.
Another interesting thing for me to search for: the banjo players on the old western records, and even some re-recordings (e.g., M&S Red River -- I think it's cool that some Mockba guy is playing a banjo).
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The composer Stanley Myers was English so I am sure that is a different musician.
Lukas
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Hey guys n' dolls, lexedo here, just spending a few days chillin' out at Graham's place. Neat. The case is, I couldn't find the right thread for what I'm gonna say, b/c this stuff isn't on the FSM label. But I'm gonna get to the point. So Graham poses this kinda cute question, he says "Hey man, I'm gonna give you a list of names, and you tell me the show", and I was like, sweet, very sweet. So here's the line-up. Pretty cool line-up b/c a lot of these names are more kinda like in the minds of jazzers. I'll tell you, I was surprised as hell to hear what these cats all played on!
Ronny Lang
Uan Rasey
Dick Nash
Red Callender
Frankie Capp
Milt Holland
Cappy Lewis
Larry Bunker
William Kraft
Red Mitchell
Laurindo Almeida
Barney Kessel
Milton Kestenbaum
Tommy Tedesco
Vince DeRosa
Clare Fischer
Emil Richards
Artie Kane
Gene Cipriano
Tommy Morgan
Pete Candoli
So I'm like scratching my head going "Wow man, that's one hell of a line-up for a TV show". I was thinking maybe Peter Gunn or something, but the answer is....................................
STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES! Now I'm gonna have to shell out 250 bucks for the set! Nice, very nice!
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You had a fine time at my place, didn't you lexedo? (sound of joke gone flat)
Anyway, the unexpected "jazzers' club" names on STAR TREK aside, I see that the ubiquitous Mr Lustgarten (and the Kaproffs) are on the TREK set as well! When Lukas gave us access to this great resourse for the FSM releases recorded in L.A., I thought "Wait - those guys are on nearly a hundred FSM releases alone"! Then when Intrada started putting their musicians lists up, Mr Lustgarten and the Kaproffs are on a bunch of them too. And now La-La Land!
I think that Mr Lustgarten and the Kaproffs must have played on billions of films. Has anyone done an in-depth interview with studio musicians with such vast CVs? It would be fascinating to hear what they have/ had to say.
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This is the thread I was on about in Dana's post about Virginia Majewski. There are other similar threads around, so this might not be the best, but you can all add to it and MAKE it the best!
Where's lexedo, by the way?
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