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 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

Not one of my favourite Goldsmiths to be honest.Its certainly nowhere near the quality of modern action score classics like The Expendables and A Good Day To Die Hard.

It doesnt help that the existing album is so poor so id definetly be up for an expanded edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Listening to this one right now for the first time in quite some time. It's a solid action score and better than I remembered it to be. Ice Chase is a vintage 90's Goldsmith score and System Down and Open Door (some great percussion in that track) are also great tracks. Only seen the film once, so don't know how much is missing.

But, together with Executive Decision and U.S. Marshals, it still sound too much like Goldsmith on auto-pilot. Wouldn't pass up on an expanded version, but there are scores from this period that I'd rather see expanded (Small Soldiers, L.A. Confidential and The Haunting from Varese, The Ghost and the Darkness and The River Wild from other labels)

But listening to this does make me miss the 90's! Better scores, better films. Good times!


I'd line to see an expanded Executive Action

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Not one of my favourite Goldsmiths to be honest.Its certainly nowhere near the quality of modern action score classics like The Expendables and A Good Day To Die Hard.
It doesnt help that the existing album is so poor so id definetly be up for an expanded edition.


The Expendables isn't worthy of kissing Chain Reaction's ass!

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Not one of my favourite Goldsmiths to be honest.Its certainly nowhere near the quality of modern action score classics like The Expendables and A Good Day To Die Hard.
It doesnt help that the existing album is so poor so id definetly be up for an expanded edition.


The Expendables isn't worthy of kissing Chain Reaction's ass!


I don't seen how anyone can compare modern action scores with the anything Goldsmith wrote; these modern action scores are nothing more than trifles.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Its certainly nowhere near the quality of modern action score classics like The Expendables and A Good Day To Die Hard.



 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I'm sorry but IMO the action packed energetic A Good Day To Die blows the rather dull Chain Reaction out of the water; I listened to the complete Chain Reaction and there just isn't enough happening for me to get into it. The movie was bad, which still would make you expect a decent Jerry but I felt he phoned it in this time. Definitely bottom pick as far Goldsmith expansions go for me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

There are modern action score classics? smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"modern action score classics" sounds like: a bald head full of hair.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

There are modern action score classics? smile

Yes of course, but 90% of them seem to have been written by John Powell...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Its certainly nowhere near the quality of modern action score classics like The Expendables and A Good Day To Die Hard.





I never laugh at these GIFs, but this one was just exactly how I felt (Get it, felt? Felt?).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

A Good Day To Die Hard is a fine score.


And I've always had a soft spot for Chain Reaction. It doesn't need to be complete, but an extra 15 minutes would have turned a good album into a great one.

Very doubtful Varese would ever revisit this, but it'd be nice if they did.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Ironically, all I hear in the Expendables scores is that 4 note motif straight out of Goldsmith's Rambo 3!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Ironically, all I hear in the Expendables scores is that 4 note motif straight out of Goldsmith's Rambo 3!

^ This!

Yet Tyler kills what Goldsmith brought to life.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

A Good Day To Die Hard is a fine score.

^ And this!

So much better than the film deserved. Complete opposite to Live Free which was a decent film with a IMHO moribund score. Go figure.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

There are modern action score classics? smile

Yep.

Expendables 2 is an even better score than the first and one of the best iv ever heard.Brian Tyler is the modern day Goldsmith in my opinion.

Im not a huge fan of Beltrami and A Good Day To Die Hard was a terrible movie, but WOW, what a terrific action score!

Im a huge fan of Mr Goldsmiths work but Chain Reaction, despite a few great tracks, was below his usual standard.Maybe an expanded edition would improve it.

Cant wait for Tylers Expendables 3 by the way!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Im a huge fan of Mr Goldsmiths work but Chain Reaction, despite a few great tracks, was below his usual standard.Maybe an expanded edition would improve it.


I doubt it. If you don't like 30 minutes of something, is it really very likely that you will like 60 minutes of it!?

I do like Chain Reaction though. Great action score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Expendables 2 is an even better score than the first and one of the best iv ever heard.Brian Tyler is the modern day Goldsmith in my opinion!

I beg to differ. Tyler is all sound and fury. He hasn't yet written anything "important" enough - nor does he have a sound distinctive enough - to rival JG. Rambo 4 was was a hollow, boring, plodding slog compared to JG's kinetic originals.

Beltrami is much more worthy to carry the mantle. Great artistry. Unique sound. Mostly just crappy films!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

"There are modern action score classics?"

LOL--well said, Mr. Bond.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Rambo 4 was was a hollow, boring, plodding slog compared to JG's kinetic originals.


There was also 20 years between Rambo IV and its predecessor... Goldsmith's 'patriotic' approach would have been terribly outdated (and possibly unintentionally funny) in contrast with the gritty and more realistic visuals and handheld camera style of Rambo IV. I first didn't think much of Tyler's score, because I was comparing it to JG, but it has since grown on me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Who's to say Goldsmith would have taken a "heroic approach" to Rambo 4?

I would like to think that he would have returned to the lonely, more anguished sound in First Blood before the franchise became cartoon-like.

 
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