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Poor Alan Silvestri has probably been getting deluged with e-mails asking him to help the album get a repressing. He's probably like "oh GOD, just re-release it so they leave me the f**k alone!" 
Thats funny, but you could be right
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(1) Re-issuing it by demands of licensor, composer and producer.
(2) You had some feedback for us when we last issued this CD. We listened.
Sounds like a Win/Win. If you missed out the last time you can finally acquire this score. If you were not happy with the way it was edited or mastered the last time you have the option of getting the newer (improved) version. I don't see the greed in this.
I don't either.
I'm happy with Intrada's original version and it will suffice for me...
Now, can we get a reissue of The Delta Force next, please. 
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Can't say I'm too thrilled, I payed $70 for it in Nov (my highest for a single disc). It's certainly a cash grab for them and I don't fault them for that. But they will diminish a bit as a company in my eyes from here on out. So, they'll lose future releases from me that I may have otherwise given a try. Hope this one was worth it Intrada.
Yeah, those after market prices are a killer but you proved a point.
Also as one put it "limited edition" which is now cast in the light of an inferior release".
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Mar 2, 2012 - 9:51 PM
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Once again, Another who misses the point completely. Glad you can keep MONEY in your pocket Bub but there are those who can't and this is nothing more than selling crack to addicts. I have the Varese and the Intrada. Thats it. What I'm saying is THEY can REISSUE it as it was made as a second pressing for those who missed it without adding more sugar (small as it may be) to entice the hoarders and compulsive buyers.
OK, "Bub," so you're just a champion for the hoarders, trying to save them some money? You humanitarian, you.
I guess any label that presses more than (please tell us the correct number) is taking advantage of 'addicts.'
Seriously, yours is the most bizarre position I've ever seen on the availability of a CD--"Don't make too many, you're taking advantage of those who can't help themselves from buying it!!!"
Your pose as defender of the defenseless is loonier than these supposed hoarders you're trying to save. Let people make their own decisions--no one elected you (or any label, for that matter) to decide such things for themselves.
I want a copy and didn't get the previous pressing, so the normal people are grateful for this.
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The term "limited edition" should never be used again... ever. Years ago, it meant something. Today, no label has kept a focus on what the term means except maybe Kritzerland.
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Well, now I've got a mental image of Mr. Silvestri repeatedly banging his face against a fancy diNovo keyboard in frustration as he tries to deal with a deluge of annoying fanboy e-mails begging for a re-release of this score. hehe
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Once again, Another who misses the point completely. Glad you can keep MONEY in your pocket Bub but there are those who can't and this is nothing more than selling crack to addicts. I have the Varese and the Intrada. Thats it. What I'm saying is THEY can REISSUE it as it was made as a second pressing for those who missed it without adding more sugar (small as it may be) to entice the hoarders and compulsive buyers.
OK, "Bub," so you're just a champion for the hoarders, trying to save them some money? You humanitarian, you.
I guess any label that presses more than (please tell us the correct number) is taking advantage of 'addicts.'
Seriously, yours is the most bizarre position I've ever seen on the availability of a CD--"Don't make too many, you're taking advantage of those who can't help themselves from buying it!!!"
Your pose as defender of the defenseless is loonier than these supposed hoarders you're trying to save. Let people make their own decisions--no one elected you (or any label, for that matter) to decide such things for themselves.
I want a copy and didn't get the previous pressing, so the normal people are grateful for this.
Well put.
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I see this as a righting of a couple of percieved wrongs by Doug Fake and Intrada.
- Making the score generally available (I believe it will be an MAF release, from prior clues).
- Correcting unpopular decisions in the editing and presentation of the score.
This is a good thing, actually. For now, the limited edition is fine with me, but this is something that simply should be done eventually.
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I see this as a righting of a couple of percieved wrongs by Doug Fake and Intrada.
- Making the score generally available (I believe it will be an MAF release, from prior clues).
- Correcting unpopular decisions in the editing and presentation of the score.
This is a good thing, actually. For now, the limited edition is fine with me, but this is something that simply should be done eventually.
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Ooops ... duplicate.
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Once again, Another who misses the point completely. Glad you can keep MONEY in your pocket Bub but there are those who can't and this is nothing more than selling crack to addicts. I have the Varese and the Intrada. Thats it. What I'm saying is THEY can REISSUE it as it was made as a second pressing for those who missed it without adding more sugar (small as it may be) to entice the hoarders and compulsive buyers.
What you're saying is that any product that is released should only have one version.
"Before we release the updated BMW 3-Series, let's wait for all of the other current 3-Series owners to die off or otherwise retire their vehicle. We wouldn't want any of them to be interested in buying this upgraded version because they just can't help themselves from spending money on new Bimmers. Sure, our sales will suffer as we sell the same car for a few decades, but at least we won't be taking money from addicts and they'll be pleased to own a vehicle which never goes out of style."
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Once again, Another who misses the point completely. Glad you can keep MONEY in your pocket Bub but there are those who can't and this is nothing more than selling crack to addicts. I have the Varese and the Intrada. Thats it. What I'm saying is THEY can REISSUE it as it was made as a second pressing for those who missed it without adding more sugar (small as it may be) to entice the hoarders and compulsive buyers.
OK, "Bub," so you're just a champion for the hoarders, trying to save them some money? You humanitarian, you.
I guess any label that presses more than (please tell us the correct number) is taking advantage of 'addicts.'
Seriously, yours is the most bizarre position I've ever seen on the availability of a CD--"Don't make too many, you're taking advantage of those who can't help themselves from buying it!!!"
Your pose as defender of the defenseless is loonier than these supposed hoarders you're trying to save. Let people make their own decisions--no one elected you (or any label, for that matter) to decide such things for themselves.
I want a copy and didn't get the previous pressing, so the normal people are grateful for this.
Reissue the inferior release so now those who missed it, get it. and move on. But no. But changing it just a bit makes it a NEW product and also reissued way too soon, a couple more years and I wouldn't be so critical. If this is the case then it should have never gone OUT of print in the first place and then this would be a non issue. To many other scores out there need attention than this one. Glad you got megabucks Bub.
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And believe me, there will be complainers again, about different things. This is a battle that cannot be won, I'm afraid.
Interesting. Or am I reading too far into this, Bruce?
I mean, when someone says, "We listened to what you didn't like and we fixed it" well, that just seems to me a game you cannot win. First of all, why was it not done "right" in the first place. Or, if the people doing the disc did what they felt was best, why is that suddenly NOT right? And now that it is the new RIGHT there will be those who say that something is STILL not right, so will that cause yet another reissue where they change it again in any number of ways to appease five or six people (that's really the number, you know). That's all I meant by it's a game that cannot be won. Since it's coming from the exact same sources, I suppose the decision for most will be if they give a flying Wallenda about a handful of undone crossfades and two-second musical bits.
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If Douglas Fake is working on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Volume 3, then I forgive all his sins.
If he is not, then he's a dirty little beast.
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Mar 2, 2012 - 10:02 PM
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JSWalsh
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Can't say I'm too thrilled, I payed $70 for it in Nov (my highest for a single disc). It's certainly a cash grab for them and I don't fault them for that. But they will diminish a bit as a company in my eyes from here on out. So, they'll lose future releases from me that I may have otherwise given a try. Hope this one was worth it Intrada.
Sketchkid,
A word of advice from someone probably much older:
If you REALLY want something, figure out how much you think it's worth. NOT how much it costs right now, or how much someone is asking, but what, to you, it's worth.
Then, do one of two things:
But it at that price and be happy even if it comes out in an unlimited amount the following day, for free--you paid what YOU thought was a fair price for the value of this object you wanted.
Or:
Wait.
I've been buying soundtracks for thirty years. I've gotten pretty much everything I wanted, and can wait for the rest. Because I like the music, not the 'thing.'
And to the inevitable 'But the hoarders/spendaholics' foolishness, if you want to go through life worry about imaginary problems of imaginary people, no one can stop you. Just don't think anyone's going to take you seriously.
Imagine this situation:
"Hey, there's that great new THING you wanted, it's available! Grab one!"
"No, I don't want to encourage the producers to make more."
"Why not?"
"Because somewhere, someone is going to buy it who can't stop himself from buying it."
"But--but you want it!"
"Yes, but someone else wants it who shouldn't want it."
"(&%)_!?!?!??"
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The term "limited edition" should never be used again... ever. Years ago, it meant something. Today, no label has kept a focus on what the term means except maybe Kritzerland.
And we will continue to honor the term. I take it seriously. That's the game, that's what we do, and that's the fun of it, frankly. Unless it's a score like Predator (for me, it's baffling, but I'm not a child of the 80s), these things really don't sell more than the number of units that we try to guess. Could I have sold another 200 Thelma and Louise? I not only think the answer is maybe but maybe not, I think had that release been done at 1500 that we would have sold less than we did and we'd still have it. That's not a good thing for us - others may be in different positions, but we need to sell our stock.
When we began doing the limited editions back in 2006, I think, it was a completely different world. Some of this has gotten rather silly, and there's just a whole boatload of stuff coming from too many people too fast. I just sit here and marvel how they can get it all done. I can barely do twenty a year.
I take no stance on this particular release. I just find the wording peculiar.
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The term "limited edition" should never be used again... ever. Years ago, it meant something. Today, no label has kept a focus on what the term means except maybe Kritzerland.
This is the problem with the term "limited edition". So many other venues of collecting something also use this tag. It's a marketing tool to Entice you to buy. It's a tag that denotes it will be VALUABLE in years to come. Just look at the feeding frenzy over Die Hard, yet you can still get Commando for around $40 aftermarket. That's because the speculators horded them. This is the main problem with collecting anything. And the manufactures know this. Thats why they throw kerosene on the fire all the time, to make money. Yeah, it's the "Music"....partially but it's about money, Money they get from us. Without money from us, they have no business. Anybody see a housing bubble parallel in any of this?
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