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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Spielberg's Duel Soundtrack???    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 11:47 AM     By:   BobScore   (Member) I was told by someone that Bill Goldenberg's score was replaced when DUEL was shown as a feature in Europe. Can anyone verify this and do they know who did the replacement score? Hello, I am a composer and musician living in France You are right : Duel has been projected in France in 2012 with a new "music" performed live by two musicians who called themselves "radiomentale". They call their performance "cinemix". Of course, it is a true shame : how is it possible that Spielberg and Goldenberg authorize that kind of scandal ? I mean, a film a work of art and no one, I mean "no one" is allowed to modify it in any way. Themusic of Goldenberg is great and appropriate and there is nor eason to replace it with some stupid electronic fakedmusic. Did you know that they did the same massacre with The fantastic Voyage ? Good Lord...    Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 5:21 PM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) You mean when the duo saw the truck on screen they didn't surrender to it? Why in the world has this Goldenberg score not been reelased? We can't blame Busting -- that was recently. This score has been languishing in no release Hell for decades.    Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 7:02 PM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) You mean when the duo saw the truck on screen they didn't surrender to it? Why in the world has this Goldenberg score not been reelased? We can't blame Busting -- that was recently. This score has been languishing in no release Hell for decades. Universal, so only a couple of labels are in there in terms of what's not been released. I have to believe they have elements - I certainly have it and it's great.    Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 8:10 PM     By:   Richard-W   (Member) Justin Boggan: Why in the world has this Goldenberg score not been reelased? We can't blame Busting -- that was recently. This score has been languishing in no release Hell for decades. Why in the world hasn't the original, 74-minute DUEL been released? It shook up television audiences back in 1971, and was broadcast many times. The lean, tight 74-minute thriller is the reason the film is remembered today. The 89-minute version, padded for theatrical release in the U.K. and Europe, is considerable slowed down and nowhere near as compelling. That's the only version released on the Special Edition DVD. A real pity. To see the shorter version with the original score would be exciting. I think it's a better film.    Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 10:12 PM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) Justin Boggan: Why in the world has this Goldenberg score not been reelased? We can't blame Busting -- that was recently. This score has been languishing in no release Hell for decades. Why in the world hasn't the original, 74-minute DUEL been released? It shook up television audiences back in 1971, and was broadcast many times. The lean, tight 74-minute thriller is the reason the film is remembered today. The 89-minute version, padded for theatrical release in the U.K. and Europe, is considerable slowed down and nowhere near as compelling. That's the only version released on the Special Edition DVD. A real pity. To see the shorter version with the original score would be exciting. I think it's a better film. The longer version has the same original score, so not sure I understand that part of your post. But I agree - I really hate the added scenes and wish they'd released both versions - the TV in its proper TV ratio, and the theatrical.    Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 11:38 PM     By:   CindyLover   (Member) ITV3 screened the actual TV movie a couple of years ago, bless 'em, but it hasn't turned up since. Maybe that'll get a DVD/Blu-ray release (along with Savage, Spielberg's final TV movie to date).    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 12:22 AM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) I enjoyed both cuts. I actually enjoyed the longer one more. Why does something always have to be tight? It reminds me of Trek fans who prefer the shorter The Wrath of Khan cut. Well, since Intrada is working with Universal some, maybe the studio will request the label do a soundtrack for it one day to coincide with an anniversary or new DVD/Blu-ray release. I'm hoping there's more score that was dropped fro mthe film; can never have too much of a score like that.    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 12:37 AM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) I enjoyed both cuts. I actually enjoyed the longer one more. Why does something always have to be tight? It reminds me of Trek fans who prefer the shorter The Wrath of Khan cut. I've only seen the longer cut, and quite enjoyed it. I also prefer the shorter The Wrath of Khan cut.    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 10:32 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television?    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 11:21 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) Duel has been projected in France in 2012 with a new "music" performed live by two musicians who called themselves "radiomentale". They call their performance "cinemix". There is just one score by Billy Goldenberg. The above live event was specifically put on by the DJ's who assembled/created new music background ("soundscape"), and I'm sure the poster above knew this. Not particularly outrageous or a "scandal." ITV3 screened the actual TV movie a couple of years ago, bless 'em, but it hasn't turned up since. Maybe that'll get a DVD/Blu-ray release (along with Savage, Spielberg's final TV movie to date). blu-ray was released in October 2014 as part of the "Steven Spielberg Director's Collection."    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 3:23 PM     By:   Howard L   (Member) While the Hermann influence is obvious in some of the string writing, it is far less so in the incredibly creative percussion employment. There's a number of extended techniques and effects here that even today I can scarcely identify the origin of. The lack of brass and woodwinds helps add a distinct and unique sound to the score too. If anything I'd say the score more strongly-resembles some of Richard Rodney Bennett's more "modernistic" scoring tendencies, i.e. those heard in VOICES or FIGURES IN A LANDSCAPE than most of Hermann's output. With all the talk of the Herrmannic sound I gave this a cursory listen and yes, I was struck by snatches of cues that brought BH's Twilight Zone scores for Little Girl Lost and The Lonely to mind. But also there's a percussive piano effect that is Goldsmithian a la the latter's Back There from the same TV series. It is an effect that seems to have influenced JN Howard for his The Sixth Sense, too. I saw Duel as a teen in its original TV airing and remember then thinking it was something Mr. Serling would have been proud of. Not really surprising, though, since Spielberg has tipped his cap Serling's way in various forms.    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 5:46 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) While the Hermann influence is obvious in some of the string writing, it is far less so in the incredibly creative percussion employment. There's a number of extended techniques and effects here that even today I can scarcely identify the origin of. The lack of brass and woodwinds helps add a distinct and unique sound to the score too. seems like both Goldenberg and Fred Karlin employed alot of unusual instrumentation in the 1970s. Any appreciative borrowing from Herrmann wouldnt be complete without the obligatory Psycho strings, which are used when the truck starts to back into the old folks' car.    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 10:14 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television?    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 11:09 PM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television? Why??? Billy Goldenberg wrote the score. THE END. Same score for the TV version as for the extended version. If some amateur twerps somewhere did another score for some live showing of the film, who gives a crap?    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 11:15 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television? Why??? Billy Goldenberg wrote the score. THE END. Same score for the TV version as for the extended version. If some amateur twerps somewhere did another score for some live showing of the film, who gives a crap? An earlier post suggested otherwise. Don't hold me responsible for misinformation on teh interwebz.    Posted:   Dec 30, 2014 - 11:39 PM     By:   haineshisway   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television? Why??? Billy Goldenberg wrote the score. THE END. Same score for the TV version as for the extended version. If some amateur twerps somewhere did another score for some live showing of the film, who gives a crap? An earlier post suggested otherwise. Don't hold me responsible for misinformation on teh interwebz. I know, I read it. But several of us came in immediately and corrected it. It's Billy G all the way.    Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 7:34 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I am confused. There isn't just one score? Who did the music for the version that originally aired on US television? Why??? Billy Goldenberg wrote the score. THE END. Same score for the TV version as for the extended version. If some amateur twerps somewhere did another score for some live showing of the film, who gives a crap? An earlier post suggested otherwise. Don't hold me responsible for misinformation on teh interwebz. since I explained this already, I can only assume the "ignore list" option is making my posts irrelevant. Great feature. Maybe it explains why he didnt see other posts mentioning Goldenberg here, although it doesnt explain why he didnt make the least effort to use google, imdb, soundtrackcollector, etc.    Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 8:14 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) ...although it doesnt explain why he didnt make the least effort to use google, imdb, soundtrackcollector, etc. Sorry, I thought that the nature of a chat board such as this allowed me to ask questions relevant to the topic, and also to respond to previous posts.    Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 8:15 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I know, I read it. But several of us came in immediately and corrected it. It's Billy G all the way. Thank you for clarifying.    Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 8:58 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) ...although it doesnt explain why he didnt make the least effort to use google, imdb, soundtrackcollector, etc. Sorry, I thought that the nature of a chat board such as this allowed me to ask questions relevant to the topic, and also to respond to previous posts. sure, you're allowed to keep asking the same simple question repeatedly while ignoring posts that answer them. Makes for a real interesting chat.     General Discussion: Spielberg's Duel Soundtrack???    << < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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