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 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

The Ghost of Sierra de Cobre (aka The Haunted).....is it available to view anyplace?


It was shown last year at the UCLA movie theater.
http://wearecontrollingtransmission.blogspot.fr/2011/02/lost-outer-limits.html



I knew that...I meant online or anyone with a DVDR

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)




easy enough to edit them out with a decent wave editor & create a new disc.


I don't have the time. Source cues should NEVER be indexed with dramatic cues, unless there is a deliberate segue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

The Ghost of Sierra de Cobre (aka The Haunted).....is it available to view anyplace?


It was shown last year at the UCLA movie theater.
http://wearecontrollingtransmission.blogspot.fr/2011/02/lost-outer-limits.html



I knew that...I meant online or anyone with a DVDR


Try the United Swindlers of eBay. wink



Martin Landau in "The haunted" (CBS).

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)




easy enough to edit them out with a decent wave editor & create a new disc.


I don't have the time. Source cues should NEVER be indexed with dramatic cues, unless there is a deliberate segue.


well gee...ask a friend who's good with audio editing to do it for you.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

The one that stuck with me for years, ever since I first saw it on the telly, was the bit used for the finale of "A Feasibilty Study" (No spoilers - David Opatoshu in the church) which makes my hair stand on end just thinking about it. I think Joan Hue would say "bone-meltingly gorgeos". That's the first time I heard that music, but it might have been written for "The Human Factor" first, and later retracked - I'll have to check (or one of you can confirm it for me and save me the trouble).


Yeah, Graham, "A Feasibility Study" was tracked with stock library cues.
Indeed, the selection of music for the ending with self-sacrifice came from the love theme written for 26-year-old Sally Kellerman falling for 48-year-old Gary Merrill in "The Human Factor".

I suspect, Graham, neither your bones melt nor your hair stands on end whenever you watch this "odd couple"'s love scenes in "The Human Factor"!
It's fascinating, though, how a piece of library music can be applied to different scenes and take on different effects according to the context of those scenes.
It was the characters' situation in conjunction with the music which made that lasting impression upon you.

I'm curious, Graham, when did THE OUTER LIMITS get broadcast in the U.K.?
Were they shown on ITV or BBC, and were they transmitted before 1970 or afterwards?

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Does anyone know offhand if these three scores were tracked into additional episodes, or do I simply remember them from the shows they were written for?

The "Nightmare" incidental music did not receive much recycling throughout the series.
The episode which I think showcases the most tracks from "Nightmare" is "The Guests".

Ironically, I feel the "Nightmare" music is used to better effect in "The Guests" as stock music, illustrating my point that some episodes allow a greater level of instrumental detail to be heard in the sound mix.
Sometimes, portions of music are inaudible in the episodes they're written for and the audience gets to hear those pieces clearer when such music is tracked elsewhere.

As for "The Man Who Was Never Born", the music from here did get more usage but more as snippets here & there in too many segments to list. I think substantial amounts of music from "The Man Who Was Never Born" show up in "The Bellero Shield" as well as "The Children Of Spider County".

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

La La Land records is the current champion of the TV music by Dominic Frontiere. Between their NAME OF EVIL/UNKNOWN album and their 3-disc set of music from THE OUTER LIMITS, we've gotten the best representation of Frontiere's OL work to date. Nonetheless, some music can be heard within episodes of THE OUTER LIMITS that's still unavailable on disc (such as that from "The Zanti Misfits") (...).


All the stock music used on "The Outer Limits" comes from "Stoney Burke".
And "The Zanti Misfits" recycles cues from the episode "Point of Honour", especially the tense martial cue.
You can read it in "The Outer Limits Companion".

Frankly, we need three more Frontiere titles from the early 60's:
"Stoney Burke" (1962)
"Hero's Island" (1962)
"The Haunted" (1965)*


* Cues were recycled in the pilot of "The Invaders" and in one episode of "The Fugitive" fourth season.


Thanks for the input.
I recall reading somewhere about episodes such as "O.B.I.T." and "The Zanti Misfits" containing music previously from STONEY BURKE.

My point, though, was that the music we hear in 'The Zanti Misfits", regardless of its source, did not get issued onto any albums. It is still unreleased music...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Tone, my late dad was the one who got me interested in SF from a very early age. I remember him telling me the story of "The Architects of Fear" when I was about nine or ten, many years before I actually saw it. So, my dad saw the whole series on its first run on British TV (I don't know if that would be long after the original US broadcasts), but the first time I ever saw it was in the early '80s, maybe about '82, on BBC2 (I think), which was certainly the first time in MY memory when it was shown (so we can just about rule out any '70s broadcasts).

Oh, and correct - the context is vital regarding the use of retracked music. That music which made the ending of "A Feasibility Study" so heartrending didn't make anything like the same impression on me in the episode it was actually written for!

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I can only rank Frontiere's Outer Limits music as "great" overall. I listen to it on an mp3 player on shuffle, so I can't pin down specific episode scores. When it comes to tension-building, sinister atmospherics Frontiere is the master. The La La Land set is a Desert Island Disc for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

ToneRow, An aside: you mention the unreleased Lubin music in your first post--have you heard the ONE STEP BEYOND CD? It includes a longer, slower version of what was later `regifted` big grin as Lubin`s OUTER LIMITS theme. The BEYOND version includes a wordless solo voice ala Goldsmith`s ILLUSTRATED MAN. It`s kind of a languid lounge singer take on it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



The "Nightmare" incidental music did not receive much recycling throughout the series.
The episode which I think showcases the most tracks from "Nightmare" is "The Guests".

Ironically, I feel the "Nightmare" music is used to better effect in "The Guests" as stock music, illustrating my point that some episodes allow a greater level of instrumental detail to be heard in the sound mix.
Sometimes, portions of music are inaudible in the episodes they're written for and the audience gets to hear those pieces clearer when such music is tracked elsewhere.

As for "The Man Who Was Never Born", the music from here did get more usage but more as snippets here & there in too many segments to list. I think substantial amounts of music from "The Man Who Was Never Born" show up in "The Bellero Shield" as well as "The Children Of Spider County".


Thanks. Interesting that this was the music that I really remembered when I got the CDs.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

ToneRow, An aside: you mention the unreleased Lubin music in your first post--have you heard the ONE STEP BEYOND CD? It includes a longer, slower version of what was later `regifted` big grin as Lubin`s OUTER LIMITS theme. The BEYOND version includes a wordless solo voice ala Goldsmith`s ILLUSTRATED MAN. It`s kind of a languid lounge singer take on it.





Here's some of Lubin's OL work, downloaded from the library site

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

Does anyone know offhand if these three scores were tracked into additional episodes, or do I simply remember them from the shows they were written for?

The "Nightmare" incidental music did not receive much recycling throughout the series.
The episode which I think showcases the most tracks from "Nightmare" is "The Guests".

Ironically, I feel the "Nightmare" music is used to better effect in "The Guests" as stock music, illustrating my point that some episodes allow a greater level of instrumental detail to be heard in the sound mix.



"Production and Decay of Strangle Particles" also highlights Frontiere's "Nightmare".


PS: Nobody mention the lost scores of "The Outer Limits", meaning
"The Galaxy Being" and "The Invisibles".
Just read the companion book of "The Outer Limits" written by David J. Schow.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

could (member) be Thomas Rucki? wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

could (member) be Thomas Rucki? wink

Could Charles Thaxton be Roy Thinnes? wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

could (member) be Thomas Rucki? wink

Could Charles Thaxton be Roy Thinnes? wink


that would be telling....

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2012 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

PS: Nobody mention the lost scores of "The Outer Limits", meaning
"The Galaxy Being" and "The Invisibles".


I mentioned "The Galaxy Being" a few posts above! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2012 - 3:33 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

La La Land records is the current champion of the TV music by Dominic Frontiere. Between their NAME OF EVIL/UNKNOWN album and their 3-disc set of music from THE OUTER LIMITS, we've gotten the best representation of Frontiere's OL work to date.

Bearing in mind what has been made available to us, which episode scores do you like the most?

Here's my ranking:




THE PASSIONATE SCORES
The Architect of Fear
The Human Factor
The Man Who Was Never Born

THE EPIC SCORES
The Borderland: the greatest climax track ever!
Don't Open Till Doosmday
Tourist Attraction

THE ODDBALL SCORES
The Mice: featuring a first-rate martial cue (track #9)
Controlled Experiment
Zzzzzz


PS: "The Forms of Things Unknown" is my number one but it is not part of this 3-CD set.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2012 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

THE BORDERLAND
Four episodes that use "The Big Finish" track to a greater effect and during the outcome:
"The Man With The Power"
"The Sixth Finger"
"The Special One"
"Production and Decay of Strange Particles"

 
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