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 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Very nice top five Slint I enjoy them all we are likely not that different I also have enjoyed some music in almost all Trovajoli titles I own think I have picked up most of the titles before the 80s apart from a small number of them.
Like ToneRow I'm very excited about the samples for the new upcoming Digit title MACISTE L'UOMO PIU FORTE DEL MONDO

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Very nice top five Slint I enjoy them all we are likely not that different I also have enjoyed some music in almost all Trovajoli titles I own think I have picked up most of the titles before the 80s apart from a small number of them.
Like ToneRow I'm very excited about the samples for the new upcoming Digit title MACISTE L'UOMO PIU FORTE DEL MONDO


Yes, I also enjoy very much Peplum and early 60s titles, but perhaps just because of sound quality, and the lack of "main themes", they tend be out of the top ten list.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Maybe Ajhfsm should tell us what titles he owns and we can point out some titles that he is missing that are worthy of looking into.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2014 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Maybe Ajhfsm should tell us what titles he owns and we can point out some titles that he is missing that are worthy of looking into.

I have heard Seddok and Ercole al centro della terra. I have Seddok on order but Ercole al centro della terra CD is too difficult to obtain. These are my top interests in AT's work. I have mostly thought of AT as a romantic/comedy composer. I haven't looked at his western work either.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2014 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Maybe you should check out

Italiani Brava Gente a serious score and really superb, cold and icy reality of war with a great sense of camaraderie holding it all together. Not one I would listen to a lot now but it always has great impact when I first got into it could not stop listening to it at the time.

Ligabue Really superb score this really should be in my top five enter into the mind of this painter slightly disturbing and deranged and beautiful at the same time.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 3:19 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Thanks wOw. I will do that. Ligabue sounds especially interesting.

I've been wondering about IL FORNARETTO DI VENEZIA (The Scapegoat), "thriller/romance/power", any impressions?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Sorry not able to help you with comments on IL FORNARETTO DI VENEZIA don't own that one myself I would be interested in hearing it myself.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)


I've been wondering about IL FORNARETTO DI VENEZIA (The Scapegoat), "thriller/romance/power", any impressions?


Hi, ajhfsm (and wayoutwest).

I think IL FORNARETTO DI VENEZIA may have been the first Trovajoli soundtrack CD that I had purchased.
This 1993 C.A.M. CD is a reissue of the 1963 C.A.M. LP. I remember seeing a photo of the LP within Keith McNally's 1995 LP soundtrack price guide book. This CD was on a shelf @ Tower Records (when Tower was still a brick and mortar store and stocked imported albums), and I think I bought it around 1998.

Impressions?

The first half of the album is period music (Renaissance); 2nd half is dramatic.

These C.A.M. CDs from 20 years ago typically have 2 or 3 tracks uploaded into YouTube.

Here's "duello":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jBF-VjQ9vVA

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2014 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Thanks ToneRow

Found some more on Amazon
Il fornaretto di Venezia
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Il-fornaretto-Venezia-Trovaioli-Armando/dp/B00ATZOLDI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1401311087&sr=1-1&keywords=Il+fornaretto+di+Venezia

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I'm enjoying Ligabue very much. Thank you for the recommendation.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2014 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Good stuff glad you liked it.

I received Il Fornaretto Di Venezia it is very different from any other Trovajoli that I have heard so far might not have enjoyed this one a few years ago.

Very enjoyable many thanks to ToneRow wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2014 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I received Il Fornaretto Di Venezia it is very different from any other Trovajoli that I have heard so far

This is not quite true as the ceremonious fanfares from track 1 or even better the "Marcia Turca" from track 2 from FORNARETTO crop up again almost identically about 20 years later in Trovajoli's score for LA NUIT DE VARENNES (IL MONDO NUOVO) from 1982. You only have to listen to track 2 "Teatrino Cinema" of the Saimel CD of LA NUIT DE VARENNES.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2014 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Hi Stefan, are you aware of other Trovajoli work that has similarities to Seddok that you can recommend?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2014 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Hi Stefan, are you aware of other Trovajoli work that has similarities to Seddok that you can recommend?
Difficult to say as Trovajoli scored very few horror films and SEDDOK - as well as LYCANTROPUS - are rather exceptions to the rule. I hear a lot of influence from Alex North's STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE in the saxophone main theme of SEDDOK, but other parts have more of a Gothic Hammer horror feel of that time around 1960, then there are some short romantic pieces, a few jazzy lounge tracks and eerie atmospheric electronics for the suspense scenes. Al lin all, this is a mixture of styles which you won't find in such a way in many other Trovajoli scores. So it depends which of these styles you like the best. You may of course find a lot of the jazzy parts also in other Trovajoli scores of the early 60s. And the atmospheric suspense music is not unlike the one in ERCOLE AL CENTRO DELLA TERRA or in the MACISTE score which has just been released by Digitmovies.
In some parts I felt also reminded of Trovajoli's IL MITO from 1963 which was once a rare CAM LP. I have heard it only once or twice long ago, but if I remember it correctly the mixture of suspense and jazz is quite similar there.
By the way, if you particularly like the main theme then you will have to look for Trovajoli's UNA MAGNUM SPECIAL PER TONY SAITTA (BLAZING MAGNUM) where this same theme reappears, but in a much more funky 70s context than in SEDDOK.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2014 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Thank you for your expert advice. Sorry I should have been more specific, tending towards the more suspense and atmospheric rather than jazzy and romantic in Seddok.

Blazing Magnum, I have this and enjoy very much occasionally.

I eagerly await more impressions of the new Digitmovies Macista, this looks like a basket case.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2014 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Forgot about La Noche De Varennes I had put that cd away in drawer along with some other titles to return to at a later date have just finished giving it another spin feel no different to it than when I last heard it some years ago. Not sure why the performance just feels too polished or something feel no magic.

When I listen to Il Fornaretto Di Venezia it feels like it could have been recorded centuries ago.


ajhfsm It might be another month before I receive the new Digit Trovajoli/Piccioni titles my order had got held up waiting for another item to come into stock and I'm about to add another title Golden Needles.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)



GDM Club

Quite different to the Trovajoli to what I've experienced. Vivid depiction of a tormented/surreal psyche using a small acoustic ensemble, seems to be strings, organ, piano, woodwind, flute. Some parts oddly comical theatrical other parts intense almost delusional.

Thanks again WoW for bringing this to my attention.

Here considering the small amount of experience, a very limited number of works, for a vacillating top 5 :

1. Seddok
2. Blazing Magnum
3. Ligabue
4. Ercole Al Centro Della Terra
5. Lycanthropus

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

It may not be what the original poster was after but my favourite trovajoli western score is The Gemma film Long days of revenge (or vengeance). If you look it up on u-toob dig that wonderful slow trumpet and the Absolutely delicious electric guitar. Tried to post sample but it wouldnt do it.


"Trovajoli was the widower of actress Pier Angeli.
. He died in Rome at the age of 95 on 28 February 2013

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Has anybody heard any of the Italian Eclipse orchestra recordings from the 1950's?


In 1952-53 he (Trovaioli) collaborated with Piero Piccioni in Eclipse, a weekly musical broadcast in which the orchestra is directed alternately by the two composers, in a style extremely refined and sophisticated, very different from the music of radio orchestras at that time.
Redazione Roma (2 March 2013).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Has anybody heard any of the Italian Eclipse orchestra recordings from the 1950's?


In 1952-53 he (Trovaioli) collaborated with Piero Piccioni in Eclipse, a weekly musical broadcast in which the orchestra is directed alternately by the two composers, in a style extremely refined and sophisticated, very different from the music of radio orchestras at that time.
Redazione Roma (2 March 2013).


Yes, it is available from purchase online. And I believe this is the only place where you can have it in lossless:

http://www.junodownload.com/products/eclipse/1509987-02/

 
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