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 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

Double post.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

If the movie was done about 10-15 years ago with JNH on board, I would be VERY excited to hear it... considering quality of his recent output... well, not so much.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

If the movie was done about 10-15 years ago with JNH on board, I would be VERY excited to hear it... considering quality of his recent output... well, not so much.

DonĀ“t give up on him. He still can be brilliant.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

If the movie was done about 10-15 years ago with JNH on board, I would be VERY excited to hear it... considering quality of his recent output... well, not so much.

That's pretty much my reaction every time I see JNH's name on anything. It is not a good feeling.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If the movie was done about 10-15 years ago with JNH on board, I would be VERY excited to hear it... considering quality of his recent output... well, not so much.

That's pretty much my reaction every time I see JNH's name on anything. It is not a good feeling.


But "Snow White and the Huntsman" was pretty close to the old JNH. So I am holding out hope.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Snow White had some OK moments (nothing special)... but then it just turned into uninspired messy action music. I expected so much from that one (both the movie and the score) and both were huge disappointments.

I hope he will revisit his more orchestral roots with this one, but after so many disappointments in recent years I am not overly optimistic... I still hope he will deliver something good for a change, but don't really believe it...
So after expecting his usual crap, perhaps it won't turn out to be as bad as expected and will actually surprise. That would be nice!
I'll definitely wait until some long enough samples are available before placing an order.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

When I started listening to Snow White, I felt that rush of relief. "There's my James Newton Howard!" Then the Zimmer action music started and I started soldering off the iTunes part of my hard drive.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I saw part of the trailer before a Youtube clip of something I wanted to see.

I watched it thinking: not only does this look to showy, but totally unecessary. If I wanted to see this, I'll see the old Disney animated film, and then skipped the rest of the trailer.

Can people even act anymore without getting into costume and putting a self-important look on thier face with a passing Fourth Wall gaze and pretend like they're all that and they don't have to get into character, anymore? Geez.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   richuk   (Member)

Melodically I'm still with JNH, but his action music has gone down the toilet. Most of the action cues in Snow White are some of the most generic pieces of music I've ever heard from an A-list composer.

Where's the JNH who composed King Kong, Lady in the Water and The Water Horse?

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I think James Newton Howard is at the top of his game and I am so excited to hear Maleficent. His first two Hunger Games scores are my favorites of anything he's ever done and I can't wait to hear what he comes up with next (not that Maleficent will be anything like HG).

I also really dug Parkland too, which was terrifically low-key and haunting with some wonderful atmospherics and plaintive horn solos. The only score of his I couldn't get into lately was After Earth but for the record I loved his Bourne score (although it was a bit lacking) as well as Snow White and the Huntsman. How can anyone not love the cue "White Hart" from that score?

I wouldn't say he's on a roll now, he's on yet another roll. I'll also amend my "he's at the top of his game" statement to say he's returned to the top of his game, if he ever left it. He blows me away with each new score and I have zero doubt that Maleficent will be incredible.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I think James Newton Howard is at the top of his game and I am so excited to hear Maleficent. His first two Hunger Games scores are my favorites of anything he's ever done and I can't wait to hear what he comes up with next (not that Maleficent will be anything like HG).

I also really dug Parkland too, which was terrifically low-key and haunting with some wonderful atmospherics and plaintive horn solos. The only score of his I couldn't get into lately was After Earth but for the record I loved his Bourne score (although it was a bit lacking) as well as Snow White and the Huntsman. How can anyone not love the cue "White Hart" from that score?

I wouldn't say he's on a roll now, he's on yet another roll. I'll also amend my "he's at the top of his game" statement to say he's returned to the top of his game, if he ever left it. He blows me away with each new score and I have zero doubt that Maleficent will be incredible.


Haha that was hilarious, man! Good job!

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Soundtrack coming to Big Screen Music Records. WOW!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

Melodically I'm still with JNH, but his action music has gone down the toilet. Most of the action cues in Snow White are some of the most generic pieces of music I've ever heard from an A-list composer.

Where's the JNH who composed King Kong, Lady in the Water and The Water Horse?


He's always there. The only thing generic in the action cues are the use of synth percussion, but he expands these cues to sound like him with the use of the orchestra and choir.



Notice how the beginning is rapid ostinatos and percussions, and then at 1:30 it develops into a much more orchestral and dramatic piece that clearly sounds like JNH.

Some people should stop calling generic to everything, because they're more generic and predictable. It's as dumb as people saying that all orchestral music is "the same".

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Just saw a new preview. It included a new haunting version of "Once Upon Your Dreams" from it's animated counterpart. I wasn't expecting them to carry over any of the songs from the animated film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Drawgoon   (Member)

Where's the JNH who composed King Kong, Lady in the Water and The Water Horse?

Pretty sure he is still with us. He just hadn't had the chance to get his hands on some awkward fantasy movie that involves "water" in a way.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Pretty sure he is still with us. He just hadn't had the chance to get his hands on some awkward fantasy movie that involves "water" in a way.

LOL so true!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   bagby   (Member)

The big difference between Batman Begins/The Dark Knight scores and The Dark Knight Rises, for me, is the loss of JNH. I thought the first two scores better than the third, which is a solo Zimmer effort (if something like that actually exists--ducking a shoe right now)....

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The big difference between Batman Begins/The Dark Knight scores and The Dark Knight Rises, for me, is the loss of JNH. I thought the first two scores better than the third, which is a solo Zimmer effort (if something like that actually exists--ducking a shoe right now)....

This is not the thread for this thought, but one of the things I hated about The Dark Knight Rises' score is the frequent use of the previous two films' end credit music as in-film action music. You hear that 20+ minute demo suite that Zimmer did and then you hear what it was turned into by his "team," you can't help but be angry at this way of scoring films by committee. There were good ideas in that suite, actual variations on the action stuff from the previous movies, but in translating it into the score itself, they just cut and paste the end credits over numerous action scenes. It was just jarring how wrong it was.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

The big difference between Batman Begins/The Dark Knight scores and The Dark Knight Rises, for me, is the loss of JNH. I thought the first two scores better than the third, which is a solo Zimmer effort (if something like that actually exists--ducking a shoe right now)....

The lot of them are underappreciated, but, for me, the most interesting thematic idea was the recurring three-note Knight theme from the second picture. It sounded JNH to me then, and its virtual absence from the final film confirmed for me that the idea was Howard's.

Dan

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

 
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