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Oct 15, 2014 - 5:45 AM
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bobbengan
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There's also Tony Banks recorded cues before they switched composers.
And while the movie may not have much, there's no telling until you get to the tapes and paper work, what amount may have actually been done for Shire's score.
Fascinating, didn't know Banks was involved at all. I loved his big, romantic, very 'English' score for THE WICKED LADY, though how much of that score's success is on Banks' shoulders as opposed to his orchestrator's, Christopher Palmer, is of course up to debate. Splendid and gorgeous music regardless.
As for Shire's contribution to 2010 - Having recently re-watched the film for the first time in a few years, I find his synth portions to be effectively spotted, understated and non-intrusive - The way synth scores should be if you ask me - and I love, love, LOVE the transition he takes at the end into big, Straussian, awe-inspiring symphonic grandeur for the final revelation and closing scene of cosmic metamorphosis. It's a perfect wedding of image and music and it gets me every time; It's an awe-inspiring ending that for me rivals the emotional take-away of 2001's own more ambiguous and less scientific denouement.
While 2010 may not be the masterpiece that is 2001, taken for its own merits it's a very good, very intelligent and tightly-written science fiction film in a more straightforward sense, probably exactly as Arthur C. Clarke intended his story to be told filmically.
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There are certainly quite a few people who would not mind seeing this reissued and expanded. I guess the availability of the previous CD's does help a little bit as well. While there is not too much missing music-wise, it would be nice to hear it all remastered and slightly expanded. The end tracks alone would benefit greatly from a remastering, being full orchestra vs. the synth tracks heard throughout the film previously.
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Great score. I'd snatch an expanded or remastered-from-the-source release in a second.
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There's also Tony Banks recorded cues before they switched composers.
And while the movie may not have much, there's no telling until you get to the tapes and paper work, what amount may have actually been done for Shire's score.
Fascinating, didn't know Banks was involved at all. I loved his big, romantic, very 'English' score for THE WICKED LADY, though how much of that score's success is on Banks' shoulders as opposed to his orchestrator's, Christopher Palmer, is of course up to debate. Splendid and gorgeous music regardless.
What I found and is on my rejected scores site:
"According to one Banks fansite, Banks did two hours of score, writing, and re-writing score cues to please the producers, but that it didn't work out (for anywhere from six months to year, depending on what source you read)."
I also have two interview excerpts where he talks about the experience some.
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While 2010 may not be the masterpiece that is 2001, taken for its own merits it's a very good, very intelligent and tightly-written science fiction film in a more straightforward sense, probably exactly as Arthur C. Clarke intended his story to be told filmically.
Well, not exactly as Clarke intended - all of the nonsensical cold-war-world-at-the-brink stuff was added so that the filmmakers could show us that the universe knows how to avert nuclear holocaust.
I read it last year and found that Clarke's book is surprisingly good - surprising because it seems hard to believe that a sequel to 2001 could be viable. But the film is another in the endless list of movies filmmakers worsen by making needless changes.
But I still like the music and would appreciate a new release, never had the original.
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If any of the individuals working the major reissue labels (La La, Intrada, BSX, Perseverance, Quartet, GNP etc.) are reading this or are likely to read it, I was wondering what issues might hold up a release of 2010.
Rights? David Shire's hatred of the hacking of his score? Lost tapes? Sheer non-interest on the part of both labels and the buying public?
It would be nice to know if this release has even been considered.
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It would be nice to know if this release has even been considered.
I do not know of any plans for this particular score (I'm a fan), but this is as good a time as any to reiterate:
Everyone working at all of the soundtrack labels are huge fans of film scores, and it's likely that most scores that you can name have been considered, if not seriously pursued for release and or reissue. If we had our way everything would be available and would stay in print forever.
So if you ever wonder if someone considered releasing a score---the answer is simple: Yes!
As to why it hasn't been done yet---the answer is complicated, and there's not enough time or space to explain all the reasons why. But we keep trying!
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^^^^
Ummm...
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No, we want a legal release from a real label.
Please do not post links to boots here. We've been over this a thousand times.
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It's even worse in that the unmentionable is only a retread of the released CD, with unconnected tracks thrown on as extra stuff. Most people would be better off, and rightly better off, in tracking down the old CD and grabbing it (as I did).
I have a question for those who have worked with original tapes of scores for transfer to CD. Hyams butchered Shire's score by cutting it up and adding effects or classical tracks into it. Would the amended tracks, done after Hyams's butchering, even still be available to provide the score as heard in the movie?
I am not 100% sure on how this all works but it would be great if someone could explain it.
Thank you all.
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It's even worse in that the unmentionable is only a retread of the released CD, with unconnected tracks thrown on as extra stuff. Most people would be better off, and rightly better off, in tracking down the old CD and grabbing it (as I did).
I have a question for those who have worked with original tapes of scores for transfer to CD. Hyams butchered Shire's score by cutting it up and adding effects or classical tracks into it. Would the amended tracks, done after Hyams's butchering, even still be available to provide the score as heard in the movie?
I am not 100% sure on how this all works but it would be great if someone could explain it.
Thank you all.
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It's even worse in that the unmentionable is only a retread of the released CD, with unconnected tracks thrown on as extra stuff. Most people would be better off, and rightly better off, in tracking down the old CD and grabbing it (as I did).
I have a question for those who have worked with original tapes of scores for transfer to CD. Hyams butchered Shire's score by cutting it up and adding effects or classical tracks into it. Would the amended tracks, done after Hyams's butchering, even still be available to provide the score as heard in the movie?
I am not 100% sure on how this all works but it would be great if someone could explain it.
Thank you all.
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It's even worse in that the unmentionable is only a retread of the released CD, with unconnected tracks thrown on as extra stuff. Most people would be better off, and rightly better off, in tracking down the old CD and grabbing it (as I did).
I have a question for those who have worked with original tapes of scores for transfer to CD. Hyams butchered Shire's score by cutting it up and adding effects or classical tracks into it. Would the amended tracks, done after Hyams's butchering, even still be available to provide the score as heard in the movie?
I am not 100% sure on how this all works but it would be great if someone could explain it.
Thank you all.
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Sorry. Double post. Work internet.
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