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 Posted:   Jun 27, 2013 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Again, Thor....lighten up.

It's not a "joke", per se. It's a point of view...and it's a valid one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

No one reading this thread has to agree with the point of view being expressed in the youtube clip.

It is, after all, the creative product of someone's opinion...as valid as any other.

It is, also, HUMOR.

It's meant to be light-hearted.

Lighten up.


Well, I think it's a rather mean-spirited joke, to be honest (even though it's cleverly done). It basically boils down 'we think the score is awful, and here's our way of making fun of it'. I don't find it particularly light-hearted. Quite the contrary, it hammers its point in rather heavily.

An example of good joke that manages to 'parody' a Zimmer sound while at the same time being respectful is the 'bhaaaam' sound from INCEPTION that popped up a few places, like SOUTH PARK. That was both clever AND funny.

But to each their own. I can see that if you hate the Zimmer score -- which there are many that do -- I guess you could find it funny in a self-affirming way.


Perfect, Thor. Agreed all the way. That is the main problem, it is the same Kaplan view ( or in some cases, attack ) they've specialized in for years, "it sucks 'cause we say so, and gee we're so clever to make fun of it...aren't we darling & special?" If it had been really funny or creative, that'd be fine, but this is the same snarky fanboy crap they used to spew in the pages of FSM and their unbearably smug podcasts.

I can see why people don't care for the Man Of Steel score, I like it don't love it. I don't mind anyone poking fun, but this was on the same level as Yor's blather. wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2013 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

No one reading this thread has to agree with the point of view being expressed in the youtube clip.

It is, after all, the creative product of someone's opinion...as valid as any other.

It is, also, HUMOR.

It's meant to be light-hearted.

Lighten up.


Well, I think it's a rather mean-spirited joke, to be honest (even though it's cleverly done). It basically boils down 'we think the score is awful, and here's our way of making fun of it'. I don't find it particularly light-hearted. Quite the contrary, it hammers its point in rather heavily.

An example of good joke that manages to 'parody' a Zimmer sound while at the same time being respectful is the 'bhaaaam' sound from INCEPTION that popped up a few places, like SOUTH PARK. That was both clever AND funny.

But to each their own. I can see that if you hate the Zimmer score -- which there are many that do -- I guess you could find it funny in a self-affirming way.


Perfect, Thor. Agreed all the way. That is the main problem, it is the same Kaplan view ( or in some cases, attack ) they've specialized in for years, "it sucks 'cause we say so, and gee we're so clever to make fun of it...aren't we darling & special?" If it had been really funny or creative, that'd be fine, but this is the same snarky fanboy crap they used to spew in the pages of FSM and their unbearably smug podcasts.

I can see why people don't care for the Man Of Steel score, I like it don't love it. I don't mind anyone poking fun, but this was on the same level as Yor's blather. wink



Zimmerities are obssesed with YOR, yes?

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2013 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

I can see why people don't care for the Man Of Steel score, I like it don't love it. I don't mind anyone poking fun, but this was on the same level as Yor's blather. wink

Hey now! Yor's way funnier than the Kaplans.

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2013 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

I have to say YOR is vindicated. Zimmer's score really sucks. It's not quite as good as the local school drum line.

Now Zim may have written some good scores (I would be hard pressed to name one) but this score stinks on ice.

YOR's right again.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

No, the problem is Zimmer's "score" is generic piece of crap, which is exactly the same as he has been producing for the past xx years. no proper main theme that would be worthy of the subject. That's the main problem. I simply couldn't care less if he uses any of Williams' score and it is right decision that he didn't as this movie has nothing to do with the "original" and is its own thing. The problem is the score is just so simple and boring that it becomes a joke in itself and can't be taken seriously.

Just how I think of Beltrami.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Because your taste is very poor, and your judgement even poorer.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

How can one take seriously a person whose favorite movie composer of all times is... Harold Flaltermeyer?

YOR cannot, for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

No, the problem is Zimmer's "score" is generic piece of crap, which is exactly the same as he has been producing for the past xx years. no proper main theme that would be worthy of the subject. That's the main problem. I simply couldn't care less if he uses any of Williams' score and it is right decision that he didn't as this movie has nothing to do with the "original" and is its own thing. The problem is the score is just so simple and boring that it becomes a joke in itself and can't be taken seriously.

Just how I think of Beltrami.


I'm sure Beltrami and his fans care greatly what you think.

Maybe Beltrami himself would even argue on Facebook with you? You know, like Zimmer Da Man once did.

Because Beltrami (and his fans) has such INSECURE feelings about himself, that they have to defend against the anonymous YOU teeth and claws to the death.

Right? RIGHT?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

Those who can't detect any themes in Man of Steel must be deaf. There is at least one long lined which I'd consider to be the main theme. This is heard throughout the film, though most prominently when baby Kal-El first ascends and later in his second flight (the one where he tears across the sea a la Firefox). Sure, it owes a lot to Moriconne and Barry, but it's a genuine theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

Those who can't detect any themes in Man of Steel must be deaf. There is at least one long lined which I'd consider to be the main theme. This is heard throughout the film, though most prominently when baby Kal-El first ascends and later in his second flight (the one where he tears across the sea a la Firefox). Sure, it owes a lot to Moriconne and Barry, but it's a genuine theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Those who can't detect any themes in Man of Steel must be deaf. There is at least one long lined which I'd consider to be the main theme. This is heard throughout the film, though most prominently when baby Kal-El first ascends and later in his second flight (the one where he tears across the sea a la Firefox). Sure, it owes a lot to Moriconne and Barry, but it's a genuine theme.

According to his logic, that one note buzz asociated with the Joker on "The Dark Knight" shall be a theme too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

Those who can't detect any themes in Man of Steel must be deaf. There is at least one long lined which I'd consider to be the main theme. This is heard throughout the film, though most prominently when baby Kal-El first ascends and later in his second flight (the one where he tears across the sea a la Firefox). Sure, it owes a lot to Moriconne and Barry, but it's a genuine theme.

According to his logic, that one note buzz asociated with the Joker on "The Dark Knight" shall be a theme too.


No, that's a motif. Zimmer's MOS theme is 24 bars long, and follows an A-B-C form, with the last 8 bars being a variation on the first 8. The chord progression is the following: Dm, F, Am, C - F, Bb, Am, Am - F, Am, F, C. It's very simple, but effective - much like John Barry.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Those who can't detect any themes in Man of Steel must be deaf. There is at least one long lined which I'd consider to be the main theme. This is heard throughout the film, though most prominently when baby Kal-El first ascends and later in his second flight (the one where he tears across the sea a la Firefox). Sure, it owes a lot to Moriconne and Barry, but it's a genuine theme.

According to his logic, that one note buzz asociated with the Joker on "The Dark Knight" shall be a theme too.


No, that's a motif. Zimmer's MOS theme is 24 bars long, and follows an A-B-C form, with the last 8 bars being a variation on the first 8. The chord progression is the following: Dm, F, Am, C - F, Bb, Am, Am - F, Am, F, C. It's very simple, but effective - much like John Barry.


You are talking about a melody, not a theme.

And how can it be "effective" if you are the only one who notice it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

You are talking about a melody, not a theme.

Wrong. The melody is the line that goes above the harmony. That along with a signature rhythm and some kind of association with a character, place or mood makes it a theme.

And how can it be "effective" if you are the only one who notice it?

I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

Yeah, it is so "noticiable" that you had to almost draw a diagram of it to prove its existence!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

Yeah, it is so "noticiable" that you had to almost draw a diagram of it to prove its existence!


No. I'm just being a smartass, O' Yor.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2013 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

No. I'm just being a smartass, O' Yor.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2013 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Because your taste is very poor, and your judgement even poorer.

No, the guy with the poor taste is you. I mean, Hugo Friedhofer? LOL!

 
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