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 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

Isn't freedom of speech and a personal opinion a wonderful thing....oops sorry not on this board, if you don't do backflips your pissing on a thread or being rude. Thought honesty was the best policy, as they say?

In reagrds to the soundtrack, not exactly my cup of tea but guess it's nice for those who wanted it (however I didn't see vast thread requesting it!) Just IMO.


Missed this the first time, but this makes me laugh, because it is true. If you do not jump for joy with every release you are a terrible person. If we want it we will buy it, if we don't it will be on the "To Go OOP" list. It seems that some of Intrada's releases have been showing up on the "To Go OOP" list sooner and sooner. To me that means there wasn't much interest. Look at Goldsmith's GLADIATOR, 4 months? What about Max Steiner's THOSE CALLOWAYS, a month?

Intrada Special Collection release available while quantities and interest remain!

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I will hold off on this one and keep the old release. I do believe they are scrapping the bottom for titles that are not Disney.
I do not believe the re-mastering and few extra minutes is worth another $20.00.


So, you are not buying this watermelon? Got'cha.


There is a legitimate call for re-issues of OOP limited editions. People miss the first release, people lose or damage or even trade off their copy and want another later, new score fans discover the score, and anything else I didn't mention here.

And what botom scraping? There's a good deal of unreleased scores people have been calling for, from both television and film, still unreleased, not the least of which includes (for films, complete & remastered; for TV, sets of original tracks):
"Mulan"
"Terminator 2"
"Columbo"
"Mission: Impossible"
"The Ten Commandments"
"Hawaii 5-0"
"Hocus Pocus"
"Dynasty"
"Dracula"
"Psycho"
"The A-Team"
"Lethal Weapon"
"Salem's Lot"

and on and on and on.


As for the cost of the CD, $20.00, since you aren't buying it anyway, what does it matter?
Intrada still has to pay rights to images, pressing fees, staff to package and ship CD's, AFM re-use fees, and anything else I may not have covered. Their overhead and expenditures don't change just because just because the release is a re-issue or you don't think the price is fair.



I thought a more thought-out reply was better than simply insulting you. What you do now with this information, will of course be a reflection upon who you are.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Oh please, please spare me the infantile "freedom of speech" arguments and the tiresome "we're only allowed to be cheerleaders" nonsense. Anybody who truly believes anyone's freedom of speech is being violated here must have a pretty cushy life.

Yes, freedom of speech allows you to express yourself in obnoxious and ignorant ways, but it also allows me to call you on it.

Saying you're not interested in a release (and I am not, in this case) is not the same thing as saying that they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. The latter is not simply "not being a cheerleader," but saying "Anything that doesn't please me personally is unworthy and pathetic." Please don't express that sort of arrogance and then play the victim when somebody calls you on it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

[startquote"Mulan"
"Terminator 2"
"Columbo"
"Mission: Impossible"
"The Ten Commandments"
"Hawaii 5-0"
"Hocus Pocus"
"Dynasty"
"Dracula"
"Psycho"
"The A-Team"
"Lethal Weapon"
"Salem's Lot"

and on and on and on.

You just help prove the point. Why release a re-recorded score, when there are these score that need to be released. MULAN is Disney so that is probably in the works. HOCUS POCUS was a promo and a fine one that was made by Intrada, why not release that? So, I am jumping for joy that the RIO CONCHOS re-recoding was re-released so I do not have to buy it and can put the money awat for The Ten Conmmandments.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I won't be buying this CD because I have the original issue and I'm quite happy with it.
I have no qualms about Intrada releasing it and making it available again for people who
a) missed the first release
b) missed the FSM score release
c) collect everything by JG
d) will buy it to play frisbee with in their back garden or rest their drinks on
That is my right as a citizen of the world.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Neilbucket   (Member)

Oh please, please spare me the infantile "freedom of speech" arguments and the tiresome "we're only allowed to be cheerleaders" nonsense. Anybody who truly believes anyone's freedom of speech is being violated here must have a pretty cushy life.

Yes, freedom of speech allows you to express yourself in obnoxious and ignorant ways, but it also allows me to call you on it.

Saying you're not interested in a release (and I am not, in this case) is not the same thing as saying that they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. The latter is not simply "not being a cheerleader," but saying "Anything that doesn't please me personally is unworthy and pathetic." Please don't express that sort of arrogance and then play the victim when somebody calls you on it.


And that is my favourite post all year!

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Unfortunately, I will not be buying this, because it does not come with Jerry Goldsmith's autograph like the one I have. #onlyautographever

EAT IT, BOZOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

What are the chances of a remastered THE RUSSIA HOUSE?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Three quick points:

1) If you don't own this release, it's well worth considering. It's a great Goldsmith western and is a vastly better release from a sonic perspective than the OST. One of the rare instances where the re-recording is better than the original.

2) Even if this is a re-release with relatively minor tweaks, companies like Intrada sometimes need to do this for financial reasons. Intrada owns the rights to this recording and it's probably a relatively inexpensive release for them that will allow them to bankroll some more obscure or expensive releases.

3) Is the fact that Intrada released only one "new" release this week really that much of an issue? The market's flooded with goodies and there's too much good stuff out there to choose from at the moment (in my opinion), plus they'll be back in two weeks with, I presume, two new releases.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Three quick points:

1) If you don't own this release, it's well worth considering. It's a great Goldsmith western and is a vastly better release from a sonic perspective than the OST. One of the rare instances where the re-recording is better than the original.

2) Even if this is a re-release with relatively minor tweaks, companies like Intrada sometimes need to do this for financial reasons. Intrada owns the rights to this recording and it's probably a relatively inexpensive release for them that will allow them to bankroll some more obscure or expensive releases.

3) Is the fact that Intrada released only one "new" release this week really that much of an issue? The market's flooded with goodies and there's too much good stuff out there to choose from at the moment (in my opinion), plus they'll be back in two weeks with, I presume, two new releases.

Chris.


All of that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I think if I were amongst those at Intrada who put this release together, I'd be most disheartened by some of the comments on this thread. I'm also rather saddened by the fact that there seems to be so many people (I know, it's magnified by the Internet) whose lives revolve around what's coming up, and who feel disappointed when it's not what they wanted. What sad, tiny lives. I wonder if such people really have exhausted their "wants" list of things which are still available. And if that is indeed the case (unfathomable though it may be to me), can't they go back and listen to something again? Or read a book? Or go out for a walk?

I'm going to listen to Gil Mellé's BORDERLINE again right now. Bravo Intrada for putting that out. It has given me months of pleasure and will continue to do so for years to come. Haven't heard Mancini's great MONEYCHANGERS in a while either... Or that big LaLaLand STAR TREK thing I got for Christmas and immediately kicked under the bed. There's probably some good stuff on that set.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I think if I were amongst those at Intrada who put this release together, I'd be most disheartened by some of the comments on this thread. I'm also rather saddened by the fact that there seems to be so many people (I know, it's magnified by the Internet) whose lives revolve around what's coming up, and who feel disappointed when it's not what they wanted. What sad, tiny lives. I wonder if such people really have exhausted their "wants" list of things which are still available. And if that is indeed the case (unfathomable though it may be to me), can't they go back and listen to something again? Or read a book? Or go out for a walk?

You can please some of the people all of the time.
You can please all of the people some of the time.
You can please some of the people some of the time.

But you cannot please all of the people all of the time.

If you, the folks at Intrada, or anybody who uses the internet, thinks they are going to go online and be pleased all of the time by all of the comments they see, that's a bar impossibly high, a standard that can't be reached. Anybody who preoccupies their time trying to appeal, likewise, to all of the people all of the time, would have a better chance of playing Pick-Up Sticks with their buttcheeks.

And on the flip side of the coin, why worry about their disappointment? Why worry if they want hints about what's coming next? Couldn't you likewise read a book? Take a walk? Or just ignore their posts?

Just saying.


And, for the record, I welcome this release and have no quibbles about it's price of that it's a re-issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

What are the chances of a remastered THE RUSSIA HOUSE?

Why?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I don't think that what I'm going to say is really relevant to this thread, but for some reason it came to mind...

(Overheard at the entrance to an amusement park):

MUM: "Have a great day, darling!"

SON: "I don't think I will have a great day because we're going home tomorrow."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

By the way, now is as good a time as any to mention yet again that "The Artist Who Did Not Want To Paint" may just be about my favourite 12 minutes of Jerry Goldsmith ever!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

SPYMASTER:

Since it's a 1990 release, I'm wondering if a 2013 remastered release would have improved audio quality.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

Three quick points:

1) If you don't own this release, it's well worth considering. It's a great Goldsmith western and is a vastly better release from a sonic perspective than the OST. One of the rare instances where the re-recording is better than the original.

2) Even if this is a re-release with relatively minor tweaks, companies like Intrada sometimes need to do this for financial reasons. Intrada owns the rights to this recording and it's probably a relatively inexpensive release for them that will allow them to bankroll some more obscure or expensive releases.

3) Is the fact that Intrada released only one "new" release this week really that much of an issue? The market's flooded with goodies and there's too much good stuff out there to choose from at the moment (in my opinion), plus they'll be back in two weeks with, I presume, two new releases.

Chris.


All of that.


Shaun and I were apparently brothers or at least distant cousins in a former life because we're agreeing on everything lately. Yep, Chris nailed it.

These labels are a business, not a personal jukebox. I've got no quibble with the right of the consumer to voice his or her opinion, but AT LEAST let it be an informed opinion. Jesus.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

SPYMASTER:

Since it's a 1990 release, I'm wondering if a 2013 remastered release [of The Russia House] would have improved audio quality.


Just turn it up a little. Nothing wrong with 1990.

Also, Mike - give it time, I'm sure I'll say something stupid soon enough!

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

"Mulan"
"Terminator 2"
"Columbo"
"Mission: Impossible"
"The Ten Commandments"
"Hawaii 5-0"
"Hocus Pocus"
"Dynasty"
"Dracula"
"Psycho"
"The A-Team"
"Lethal Weapon"
"Salem's Lot"
and on and on and on.

You just help prove the point. Why release a re-recorded score, when there are these score that need to be released. MULAN is Disney so that is probably in the works. HOCUS POCUS was a promo and a fine one that was made by Intrada, why not release that? So, I am jumping for joy that the RIO CONCHOS re-recoding was re-released so I do not have to buy it and can put the money awat for The Ten Conmmandments.


Well intrada isn't the only label around and everything Goldsmith will continue to get re-released and remastered, though I wish they'd finally get to titles such as "Reincarnation of Peter Proud", "Psycho II", and in the case of intrada "Warlock" and also "Rambo part deux" to complete the trilogy smile

Just have a little patience...

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2013 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

Also, Mike - give it time, I'm sure I'll say something stupid soon enough!

You know what let's just end this right now before we both get hurt.

 
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