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 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

I already have DELTA FORCE, but I like the fact that they're exploring early Silvestri synth scores. There are several of them still completely unreleased. So lots to unearth!

I guess this would be one way to look at it. I would love to have some of the completely unreleased Silvestri unearthed. This one they are just re-releasing the Intrada release and the LP version with no extra music. Those of you who missed the Intrada, grab this one, maybe we will see a complete CAT'S EYE or BLOWN AWAY released! Intrada just released FANDANGO, so they are there to release.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

I just do not understand why so many titles are being re-released over and over

Because it makes good business sense, if the licensing rights and fees are not an issue, to release something that has already proven so popular. I don't remember how many units capped the Intrada release but I remember it went quickly. Along with the market's taste for 80's scores like this, it should be a quick seller for Quartet, which will enable them to finance other, less mainstream releases. The last point somehow always goes missing whenever people complain about how a (re-)release of Score A means no release of Score B. Uh, no, there can be no release of Score B without a release of Score A. It's a fickle business, man.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Do you not read this board or other boards? How many people posted about POLTERGEIST II that already owned the first 3 and bought the 4th one? As fast as it sold out, there had to be many people that bought multiple copies. Everyone is into upgrading. What is the longest you have had one cell phone or computer? Remastering is not a major buying point for me. I have a very good sound system in my apartment and in my car, but I do not have any program where I can test a previously released score for sound quality. I can usually hear a little difference, but not enough to buy a score multiple times.


Well I am into upgrading. I have sold off most of the scores with an album presentation (30 to 40 minutes) I knew would get expanded someday. I will be honest and say I didn't expect Poltergeist II to get the complete & chronological treatment, but it is a welcome release anyway. I really like that score and it was one of the first scores I bought.

For me if an album is reissued with the same tracks and nothing new, 'remastered' sound doesn't mean anything unless the release I already have didn't have the best quality to begin with. So I rarely upgrade for the sake of better sound. In the case of the first Poltergeist score, the FSM album vs the rhino was an obvious upgrade; the rhino never sounded that great. I did do the upgrade with the Intrada Rambo III after I sold their old expansion, but in that case I didn't hear much difference.

As for wanting labels to only do previously unreleased scores; I'm glad they are reissuing the ones that are out of print and go for crazy prices on the secondary market. I honestly don't get why people are bothered by a reissue... Just ignore it and go enjoy the version you already have. Also, Quartet have been known to put out some great unreleased scores, I welcome you to their catalogue to discover these gems:

http://www.quartetrecords.com/

As for Delta Force, I suspect it's early synth heavy Silvestri... I'd need to check out the samples to see if it has dated well enough for me to get.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I'm all for it. There's a lot of short run limited releases, and it's just impossible to pick up everything before they go OOP. Second and third chances are welcomed and customer friendly.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

Also, Quartet have been known to put out some great unreleased scores, I welcome you to their catalogue to discover these gems:

http://www.quartetrecords.com/


Francis, I do visit their website regularly and have enjoyed many of their releases. On their main release webpage, I own 8 of the 12 pictured. I am just disappointed that they had to re-release something instead of releasing a new score.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


Do you not read this board or other boards? How many people posted about POLTERGEIST II that already owned the first 3 and bought the 4th one? As fast as it sold out, there had to be many people that bought multiple copies. Everyone is into upgrading. What is the longest you have had one cell phone or computer? Remastering is not a major buying point for me. I have a very good sound system in my apartment and in my car, but I do not have any program where I can test a previously released score for sound quality. I can usually hear a little difference, but not enough to buy a score multiple times.

Kim Tong

You'd have a point, if it were the same thing, but you're glossing over that what they were buying was something different (look at your own cellphone example, for example; by the way, I have a cellphone about 15 years old -- just saying).

This contained missing score, not on previous releases. It was remastered anew, from from the reverb-heavy slap-back from previous ones. And it contained unique material, like choir-only tracks as bonuses. So, for the folks who have already bought one or more versions of this, this was yet again a new version.

If everybody was into upgrading, La La Land would not still be sitting on "First Knight" copies. People aren't arbatrarily snatching duplicate copies of items.

And you're forgetting that we aren't the only consumers that purchased that Kritzerland release: specialty online retailers did as well, in bulk, such as SAE, Intrada, Movie Music, and others.

And also, I wonder how many new scores fans we have, since the Intrada edition; how many people who've discovered scores. Maybe people who have just discovered this Goldsmith effort for the first time since the last issuing. How many people who've lost, damanaged, destroyed, had stolen, or even had their copy bronze or otherwise become unplyable for some reason.

What are you saying? There's 1,5000 obsessives freak-O's here who just buy the same thing over & over & over again just 'cause it's been repackaged?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

CD-1 includes the complete score -same program as the previously Intrada release.

CD-2 includes the original 1986 album program


Remarkably, I already have both of these - but if you're a Silvestri fan get 'em.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

Justin Boggan,

FIRST KNIGHT is not a good example to compare with PII (1500) since FIRST KNIGHT was a limited edition of 5000.

Kim Tong

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Well just think of it this way, even if you already have this, when the labels make a quick sell out of a re-issue that helps them finance some of the titles that haven't been released yet, especially if they consider it to be a risky idea. If La La Land didn't put out so many quick selling big scores then they wouldn't have been able to do A Certain Smile or 55 Days at Peking.

I'm happy that Kritzerland puts out a few re-issues of scores I have (The Miracle Worker) and scores I don't really care about (Poltergeist II) so that if the next title Bruce thinks is awesome doesn't sell as fast he will be OK.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

The Intrada is enough for me.

I can't fathom anyone buying this if they already have the Intrada given disc 2 is completely redundant...though I've seen crazier things on this board....

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

I'm gonna do a 'Thor' on this one and say that the 1986 album presentation is a much better listen than the complete Intrada release

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Also, Quartet have been known to put out some great unreleased scores, I welcome you to their catalogue to discover these gems:

http://www.quartetrecords.com/


Francis, I do visit their website regularly and have enjoyed many of their releases. On their main release webpage, I own 8 of the 12 pictured. I am just disappointed that they had to re-release something instead of releasing a new score.


Fair enough, with the current rate of releases I'm just surprised anyone is still disappointed to have a breather from time to time.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


Justin Boggan,

FIRST KNIGHT is not a good example to compare with PII (1500) since FIRST KNIGHT was a limited edition of 5000.

Kim Tong

The amount is a moot point, as the LLLR's release has been out for over quodruple the length of time that the Kritzerland has, so it's had time to move the rest of the stock.

But it was part of the point I made, I just thought I didn't have to spell it out. But here it is: people aren't just buying things again & again for the hell of it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

Hey, release Silvestris Sidekicks instead as that one has never gotten a release

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   RedOkt64 2.0   (Member)

From Quartet's FB:

COMING SOON NEXT WEEK...

THE DELTA FORCE
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack in 2-CD Set
Music Composed and Performed by Alan Silvestri
Limited Edition of 1000 units

CD-1 includes the complete score -same program as the previously Intrada release.

CD-2 includes the original 1986 album program




This is great news... And... I will have it this time around. Missed out on the Intrada issue by, literally, a few hours.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Okay really considering this score, anyone's reviews on it? Never heard it before. Is it full of action?

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Burk Whittenburg   (Member)

I agree. I just do not understand why so many titles are being re-released over and over, but people keep buying because they really are not happy with the previous releases or own the bootleg version. I have the LP and the Intrada CD. This year I have been able to save money for future releases by not buying every re-release that I already own. I am really excited for the next new unreleased score CD!

Kim Tong


Like sand through the hour glass, so is a bitch/moan post by Kim Kong in a new release thread roll eyes

Did it ever occur to you that a lot of people missed out on the previous release or are simply new to soundtrack collecting? Are you really that naive? There is clearly a market for re-releases otherwise the labels wouldn't keep putting them out. You don't like them? That's your problem. Deal.

And what happened to not posting in threads devoted to scores you aren't interested in? Yup, welcome to trolldom.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

So.... is there anything on the OST that is different from the Complete, or is it just fewer tracks but those tracks are identical to the Complete?

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)



Like sand through the hour glass, so is a bitch/moan post by Kim Kong in a new release thread roll eyes

Did the idea ever occur to you that a lot of people missed out on the previous release or are simply new to soundtrack collecting? Are you really that naive? There is clearly a market for re-releases otherwise the labels wouldn't keep putting them out. You don't like them? That's your problem. Deal.



I'm in that group, I missed out on the initial release so I'm glad it's back.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2013 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

By the way, can some one link me to Quartet's facebook?

 
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