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 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I have always had a good stereo system, now I have a great system, can't imagine listening to music any other way.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Still using the Realstic speakers I purchased circa 1973-
37 pounds each!

"yeeeeeeeeaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"



BRUCE

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

In late 1969, while in the Navy in Japan, I bought a great Kenwood Stereo Receiver and two Sansui speakers.

44 years later, I still use them!

Each speaker box is huge, 7 speakers in each box: 2 tweeters, 2 upper mid range, 2 lower mid range and a 15" woofer in each box.

Each box weighs 90 LBS!

Death of the home stereo system? NOT in MY house! smile

I plan to use them until they no longer work! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Or YOU no longer work!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Owning a decent stereo really can enhance one's enjoyment - further than perhaps many would think - of their favourite music. It's easy to test this (if you've never heard one) simply by taking a couple of your favourite soundtracks to a hifi store & asking for a demo... High quality music systems are fortunately available for relatively little these days, but I always take people's (on here) opinions on the sound quality of a release with a huge pinch of salt, unless I know what they've been listening to it on. Can make a huge difference!

Soundtrack labels take a LOT of care over the mastering of their releases. Unlike most modern Rock or Pop etc. releases, which are often mastered to sound fab and loud 'on the move' (to cut through outside noise, or engine noises) in either cars or ipods whilst walking/travelling around, they can sound shite on home equipment/quieter environments. Soundtrack labels usually master for decent stereo systems and better listening environments. It really shows too! Must break their hearts when they hear of some of the gear people listen to their work on, and then have the balls to comment on the sound quality...

On a side-note, I like the policy over at the Steve Hoffman forums where people have to list their audio equipment in their profile section. A good way of seeing whether their opinions are worth listening to or not about releases.

High bitrate MP3s may sound better than ever before now, but you're still literally throwing away musical information/data when disc storage is now cheaper than ever before. Always start with the source for high quality reproduction - stick with lossless (FLAC or ALAC) or play the CD or vinyl itself on a decent rig...

Vintage hifi systems can also bring huge leaps in musical enjoyment, for very little outlay. Often look very cool too. A quick glance around www.audiokarma.com or www.pinkfishmedia.net can be enlightening (if you put your BS detector on high when it comes to the inevitable cable arguments razz ) when it comes to sifting through short-lists of vintage gear, which you can then peruse Ebay or car boot sales for.

Happy listening! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I've kind of gone overboard. But it's a hobby.

In my living room I have a conventional two-channel stereo system with a subwoofer. All Sony ES electronics with ADS speakers and a MK subwoofer.

In my den I have a Dolby 7.1 home theatre system. Again all Sony ES electronics with Dynaudio left and right speakers, a B&W center speaker, a MK subwoofer and four Polk Audio surrounds.

Both systems can shake the rafters!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Or YOU no longer work!



I was thinking of saying that Ron, but I still hope to outlive the system! smile

By the way, after buying the system I spent nearly 6 months on the Vietnam gun line. The system survived the daily blasts of the huge ship's guns very nicely. Japan built them to last in 1969! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Well, the home stereo system is still alive and kicking at MY place. That's all I care for, really. Everyone else is free to stick to music from their laptop!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Frank DeWald   (Member)

I had a glimpse of the current state of things recently when I went to my local Best Buy (a fact that should tell you something about how "audiophile" I am) to purchase a pair of floor speakers to replace the Advents (that should tell you something about how old I am!) in my "second" system (my "first" is set up for surround). The young salesman explained they didn't have a CD player hooked up to their floor models, but what kind of music did I like? "Classical?" he said. "That's easy." Then he whipped out his PHONE, connected it to an amplifier, and proceeded to play a bland-sounding stream of some Baroque piece or other. It was not impressive-sounding, and you couldn't hear any difference between the $300 and the $500 speakers. As you're supposed to do when shopping for audio equipment, I had brought a CD I knew well with me (Tadlow's QUO VADIS). I suggested that we could sample it through the Blu-Ray player connected to the models. "Sure, whatever," he said. We did that, and suddenly there was a rich sound coming out of the speakers -- and you could hear considerably more bass from the $500 model (which, fortunately, made my wife approve of the more expensive speakers)!

Streaming music over one's phone is not my idea of "hi-fi," but I'm happy to let people listen to music however they want. Don't expect ME to be happy with just an iPod, however! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

WORST taste in music [...] 'Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon'

Uh... excuse you. That's an amazing album.


Not my thing.

But my point is it's one of those ancient albums that the stereo pseud HAS to own to show 'how good the guitar solo is on this track' when showing off his set-up.

I have a mate who has a CD player that you have to put a weight on to keep the CD in place for flip's sake! And it cost him over a thousand pounds. It sure as shit doesn't sound ten times better than my Roberts all-in-one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)


Streaming music over one's phone is not my idea of "hi-fi," but I'm happy to let people listen to music however they want. Don't expect ME to be happy with just an iPod, however! smile


Actually, iPods are perfectly capable of replicating full CD sound quality if you rip your CD using a lossless encode. But you need gigantic hard drive space on the iPod, and I prefer just listening to the actual CD through my Blu-ray player.

Watching films on an iPod or iPhone, on the other hand... for shame:

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

I just can't fathom how people can just settle on listening to music on laptop/mini/cell phone/ speakers and ear puds...

Maybe because some of are broke, and frankly don't have much of a choice in the matter?

There is a certain audiophile snobbery here that's off-putting. Just because I can't afford hi-fi equipment, my opinions on the audio quality of upcoming releases are worthless?

I guess I'll have to return to comment in 50 years when I'm retired, boasting a pair of man boobs, and surrounded by towers of vintage PMC Twenty 23s.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mr. Shark: Retire in 50 years? Wow! I'll certainly be lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng gone by then!

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

I just can't fathom how people can just settle on listening to music on laptop/mini/cell phone/ speakers and ear puds...

Maybe because some of are broke, and frankly don't have much of a choice in the matter?

There is a certain audiophile snobbery here that's off-putting. Just because I can't afford hi-fi equipment, my opinions on the audio quality of upcoming releases are worthless?

I guess I'll have to return to comment in 50 years when I'm retired, boasting a pair of man boobs, and surrounded by towers of vintage PMC Twenty 23s.


Agree with all of this. Even on shitty twenty dollar laptop speakers or iPod headphones, one can easily judge if one mastering of a piece of music is better than another version.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


There is a certain audiophile snobbery here that's off-putting. Just because I can't afford hi-fi equipment, my opinions on the audio quality of upcoming releases are worthless?


Well it makes sense that if you can't experience the full sound, you might not be the best judge to review it. It is the same like someone describing the quality of a HD blu-ray they're watching on a old school tv. Keep in mind that the majority of soundtracks have been mixed and mastered to be enjoyed on a professional sound system. I'm not saying you can't enjoy it on a mp3 player or pc (I certainly do), but I do like to listen to scores on a proper sound system because it just sounds better.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I just can't fathom how people can just settle on listening to music on laptop/mini/cell phone/ speakers and ear puds...

Maybe because some of are broke, and frankly don't have much of a choice in the matter?

There is a certain audiophile snobbery here that's off-putting. Just because I can't afford hi-fi equipment, my opinions on the audio quality of upcoming releases are worthless?


I'm a student and don't make much money. What I have took me quite some time to acquire.

There's quality sound at all price points, don't just settle with the stuff that comes in the box.

I remember in high-school saving up for a pair of Sennheiser HD201 (these were $20 headphone) and a small external sound card and the sound was just great.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Maleficio:

Re: There's quality sound at all price points, don't just settle with the stuff that comes in the box. I remember in high-school saving up for a pair of Sennheiser HD201 (these were $20 headphone) and a small external sound card and the sound was just great.

And some of that stuff sounds so awful that I wonder how they can stand it! Incidentally, in reference to your comment about the Sennheiser headphones, 3 or 4 months ago I spent about $300 for both a very well-reviewed pair of Sennheiser HD598 headphones and an iPod-sized amplifier, but found that I was mainly using an old $15 pair of Sony MDR-ZX100. It was summer, quite hot, and the Sennheisers were bulky and seemed to clamp down too snugly on my ears. So I've not used the Sennheisers in months and a few days ago bought a second pair of the Sonys to give to the friend I bought an iPod for. Since I bought the Sonys through Amazon, I posted a brief review, and was startled by the great disparity in reviews of those headphones -- people either thought they were great for the price or an utter waste of money. I lean strongly towards the former!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I've had many good sets of headphones over the years, so I'm no naysayer.
But I have to feel the air move. That's music, to me.

My living room hi-fi is still the dominant feature of that room and it always will be.
I take an active, deliberate role in sitting down and listening to it.
(Which is not to say I don't occasionally enjoy having music playing passively in the background wherever I might be. I simply prefer that music not be audial wallpaper.)

EDIT: To get back to the topic sentence; I think it bears pointing out that ever since the rise of high-end home sound systems in the late 60's/early 70's, there has always been a contingency of listeners that never indulged in buying them. They were perfectly content to listen to music on modest systems, low-end systems, or even just portables and transistor radios. That same contingency exists today... the only (slight) difference is in the hardware and its presence doesn't spell death for home stereo any more today than it did 40 years ago.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

I used to always have a stereo system in my living room and loved cranking it up and just vegging in front of it. But with kids in the house, time for that was little or none at all...so it never got used, and something that never gets used doesn't stay around for very long. So now I listen on an ipod with good headphones, or I listen on my Monster Tron ipod dock.



Which has really good sound. Maybe not blast the roof off the house sound, but certainly can crank it up and annoy the neighbors pretty good.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Whats the consensus on Bose? Supposedly it gives you high end quality sound in a small wireless package?

 
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