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Last night, while watching "Chariots of Fire," I wanted to know who edited that movie, because he or she did an amazing job, especially with the music perfectly accompanying the action on screen.
It was Terry Rawlings, the same editor who worked on Blade Runner
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Talking about that, anyone else experience some soundeffects on the isolated track during a few scenes??
I have the European Blu Ray, but it can be that the US differs from this particular edition.
Yeah! I was wondering if anyone else noticed that sound effects were heard in the scene when Andrew Lindsay jumps over champagne glasses placed on the hurdles. Weird... (maybe the music-only track for that scene was damaged?)
And the US Blu-ray doesn't have the isolated score
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Re: "And the US Blu-ray doesn't have the isolated score"
And I was kinda looking forward to listening to it when my copy arrives in a couple of days. Dang!
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I don’t think I’ve seen this in its entirety since I saw it in the theaters in 1983. To say I didn’t “get” it at 14 is surely an understatement.
Something I’m not sure modern listeners may not get (or for the aged of us, remember) is that this theme was EVERYWHERE. We don’t hear movie music outside of films anymore. (Or do we? I admit I don’t listen to the radio much anymore. Of course, I didn’t then either…) The last film music I remember being everywhere in the public conscious was Titanic.
Anyway… I only have the tracks of this that are on Themes. I still think they’re terrific. It’s funny how Blade Runner is such a Holy Grail but this score seems to be much more widely dismissed. Maybe because it beat Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Maybe I should get the original album.
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I have never seen the film and I haven't heard the full album. I guess I should do both things soon.
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Are any of the Blu-ray versions with the isolated score region-free?
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It’s funny how Blade Runner is such a Holy Grail but this score seems to be much more widely dismissed.
The music of Blade Runner is more cool, more dramatic, dark and sad. Do a search, many electronic artists and bands were influenced or inspired by it. Indeed, there is definitely something muzak-ish and Clayderman about Chariots Of Fire. It's something you would play in a retirement home. Initially, the director wanted to use L'Enfant, a track from Vangelis' Opera Sauvage, but Vangelis wasn't too happy with that so he composed a new theme based on L'Enfant.
Alex
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It’s funny how Blade Runner is such a Holy Grail but this score seems to be much more widely dismissed.
The music of Blade Runner is more cool. The music is more dramatic, dark and sad. Do a search, many electronic artists and bands were influenced or inspired by it. Indeed, there is definitely something muzak-ish and Clayderman about Chariots Of Fire. It's something you would play in a retirement home. Initially, the director wanted to use L'Enfant, a track from Vangelis' Opera Sauvage, but Vangelis wasn't too happy with that so he composed a new theme based on L'Enfant.
Alex: Re: "It's something you would play in a retirement home." That could be said about the lyrical cues of most soundtracks and, indeed, is a major complaint of many soundtrack haters, which I assume you're not.
As for "Initially, the director wanted to use L'Enfant, a track from Vangelis' Opera Sauvage, but Vangelis wasn't too happy with that so he composed a new theme based on L'Enfant." Interesting. And director Peter Weir, the very next year, would use that as his principal theme to his "The Year of Living Dangerously," although many of us who bought the soundtrack back then were disappointed that it wasn't included -- perhaps Maurice Jarre, who had written the original music for the film, balked at the inclusion of the piece by Vangelis (or maybe Vangelis wanted to keep it for his own recording). So, like others, I bought "L'Enfant" just to get that cue and used it for compilations I made back then for music from "The Year of Living Dangerously, including Kiri Te Kanawa's gorgeous Richard Strauss aria -- "Beim Schlafengehen (Going To Sleep)" from "Four Last Songs" -- that also played an important part of that great film (it's heard during some of Linda Hunt's scenes as the male Kwan, which earned her a well-deserved Oscar).
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I don’t think I’ve seen this in its entirety since I saw it in the theaters in 1983. To say I didn’t “get” it at 14 is surely an understatement.
Something I’m not sure modern listeners may not get (or for the aged of us, remember) is that this theme was EVERYWHERE. We don’t hear movie music outside of films anymore. (Or do we? I admit I don’t listen to the radio much anymore. Of course, I didn’t then either…) The last film music I remember being everywhere in the public conscious was Titanic.
Anyway… I only have the tracks of this that are on Themes. I still think they’re terrific. It’s funny how Blade Runner is such a Holy Grail but this score seems to be much more widely dismissed. Maybe because it beat Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Maybe I should get the original album.
TallGuy: There have been a few more than the ones you cited. The theme to "Midnight Express" was EVERYWHERE, as was the one for "Beverly Hills Cop," as well as songs from "Saturday Night Fever" and "Flash Dance" and "Fame." And yes, you really should get the original soundtrack for "Chariots of Fire" and see the movie again for the first time as an adult -- you may be pleasantly surprised about both!
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CHARIOTS OF FIRE, as a film, is badly dated when you watch it nowadays because of its score. What may have seemed "fresh" (for whatever reason) then sounds cheap and laughable today. I watched parts of the film again lately, and it was painful. Tony Thomas was right that electronic music, because of technological development, gets old much more quickly than acoustic music - especially when you when played against a vaguely old-fashioned, "historical" film. BLADE RUNNER works much better, because the music doesn't have to sound "realistic" in the context, rather it's sf music in an sf film.
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CHARIOTS OF FIRE, as a film, is badly dated when you watch it nowadays because of its score. What may have seemed "fresh" (for whatever reason) then sounds cheap and laughable today. I watched parts of the film again lately, and it was painful. Tony Thomas was right that electronic music, because of technological development, gets old much more quickly than acoustic music - especially when you when played against a vaguely old-fashioned, "historical" film. BLADE RUNNER works much better, because the music doesn't have to sound "realistic" in the context, rather it's sf music in an sf film.
OnlyGoodMusic: I couldn't disagree MORE with you! I watched the film again over the weekend and was so knocked out by it that I started this thread AND bought the Blu-ray, which I had put off doing because I already had both DVD sets. And listening to that great Vangelis music, it seemed as fresh as when I first heard it in the movie theater over 30 years ago. Frankly, I'm startled by such dismissals of that music, especial that it "sounds cheap and laughable today." Obviously I feel just the opposite.
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It’s funny how Blade Runner is such a Holy Grail but this score seems to be much more widely dismissed.
The music of Blade Runner is more cool. The music is more dramatic, dark and sad. Do a search, many electronic artists and bands were influenced or inspired by it. Indeed, there is definitely something muzak-ish and Clayderman about Chariots Of Fire. It's something you would play in a retirement home. Initially, the director wanted to use L'Enfant, a track from Vangelis' Opera Sauvage, but Vangelis wasn't too happy with that so he composed a new theme based on L'Enfant.
Alex
COF is far more lyrical, and thematic. BR often falls into the sonic wallpaper zone it's so "heavy". It has some really nice moments, but overall I find it unlistenable. Darker doesn't make for better, which is the trend we've gotten for far too long. Of course IMHO. 
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The music for Blade Runner is lyrical too but it's not the nice kind of lyrical that you'll find on a Richard Clayderman or James Last album. It's much more dark, bluesy, techno futuristic lyrical. COF is more granny-approved lyrical. The tracks Abraham's Theme and 100 Metres are cool though.
Alex
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