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Yeah, i would go see it - if the alternative was being forced to sit thru STALKER again!
brm
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Re: Yeah, i would go see it - if the alternative was being forced to sit thru STALKER again!
brm
Mr. Marshall: Good reading for a bm. But could use a paper copy of what you wrote for other purposes....
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Re: Yeah, i would go see it - if the alternative was being forced to sit thru STALKER again!
brm
Mr. Marshall: Good reading for a bm. But could use a paper copy of what you wrote for other purposes....
That was crude.
I expect better from you, Ron
BM
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Oct 29, 2013 - 1:59 PM
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I of course disagree tons with RoryR! I bought the special edition blu-ray last week and after having seen the 3 hour documentary on how it was conceived, have only grown to like it even more. So much care went into referencing the original Alien universe, they even had Giger himself visit the design studio. You might be surprised to find the design crew themselves thought it was heresy to have the space jockey be a suit, but Scott persisted. The amount of work done by Scott on the concepts as well as the talented crew he had at his disposal, it's really great filmmaking.
The 'making of' aside, the movie for me worked and I've seen it a couple of times since I saw it at the theatre and look forward to seeing the 3-D version again, which is to me the best filmed 3D I've seen. I do want to see the sequel and love the setup Prometheus left us with. I don't care about box office, I care about seeing epic visual and thought provoking sci-fi movies done by talented directors such as Ridley Scott.
Oh, and keep up the good news RoryR, be sure to post the trailer! 
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Re: RoryK:
And what precisely does this have to do with soundtracks? Think you should have posted this among the NON-soundtracks, where it would be quite welcome. As for your "... as art... PROMETHEUS was a turd," I happen to have enjoyed the film and bought it on Blu-ray and some of the soundtrack cues online, and find it hard NOT to watch it when I come across it on HD cable, plus I wrote what I personally thought was an interesting outline for a sequel, although it was essentially ignored. But, forgive me, this really was posted on the wrong site.
Oh, please forgive me for posting it on the wrong side. How terribly stupid of me. I honestly didn't -- and still don't -- see what difference it makes, especially since all you have to do is ignore it (Right, Sheetmusicman?).
As for you enjoying PROMETHEUS.... I'm not attacking anyone for liking the movie. Let's just get that straight. If you liked it, wonderful! We're each entitled to our own tastes -- and to our own opinions. I have given this movie a fair shake (for me, anyway). I saw it in the theatre and I tried watching it again on HBO, but gave up after 40 minutes because I was sooooo bored by it. I just don't see what's good about this movie -- BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M POSTING FOR.
I'm posting -- and since movies usually have scores, then it's kind of related to the subject of this board -- on what I see as the continual idiocy of most everyone here and elsewhere wishing for, getting excited about, and even demanding sequels! Sequels! Sequels! Sequels! It's retarded.
Oh, and as to the score.... I'm hard pressed to recall any of it. It was kind of like elevator music; I knew it was there, but otherwise it made little impression -- except when it quoted Goldsmith. THAT I NOTICED! In fact, I've have probably liked the movie if Scott had only done what he first did with ALIEN years ago, just temp track the entire thing, only in this case with Fox Goldsmith scores, especially PLANET OF THE APES.
There, I just related this thread to film music. Problem solved!
As someone who has himself been rudely taken to task for posting topics not precisely about film soundtracks on this particular site, I felt I could state the obvious, that this discussion about what a lousy picture you think "Prometheus" is would better be situated on the NON-soundtrack discussion board. And your "How terribly stupid of me" shows that you just don't get it. As for Sheetmusicman's many posts, he took sheet music for film music cues and had a young and energetic team of musicians perform them spontaneously and without rehearsal as an interesting experiment. Yes, I kinda wish they had been posted on the other discussion "Trading Post," but what he posted deals with music from films, however much you may want to belittle it, and has as much right to be here as many of the topics that end up here -- such as the one about what an awful movie "Prometheus" is.
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I don't think there's anything duller than someone bleating on about a film they didn't like over a year ago under the pretext of making predictions that will still be visible on the Internet long after they've been proven false.
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Oct 30, 2013 - 8:37 PM
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I'd love Ridley to have another pop at it. But, ideally, I think he would have to recapture the sense of strangeness that was there in Alien, yet somewhat absent from Prometheus. To be honest, I think that's going to be almost impossible. The game has changed just too much.
I like Prometheus, but you only need to see it once. Repeated viewings are just that - repeats. Alien, on the other hand, continues to fascinate with repeated viewings thanks to its subtly abstract nature. The abstraction arises not just because of the design work but through some highly interesting casting, a brutally lean script (that's great because it was then open to creative interpretation by gifted actors), and Ridley's relative directorial inexperience coping with a movie that needed a hell of a bigger budget that it actually had. I think all this let loose a kind of feverish invention in him.
30-ish years later and Prometheus was perhaps too professional a product, too "perfect". It was the work of a highly experienced director with a huge production machine at his disposal. That plus modern market forces led to Prometheus being the only film it could have been in 2012. As such, it's good. Imagine, though, if it had been made in, say, 1981-82. We may have lost Blade Runner, but we'd have a hell of an Alien prequel.... well, maybe.
And...... there's only one Jerry Goldsmith.
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Oct 31, 2013 - 4:40 AM
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Les Jepson
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I thought Prometheus was dire, & I'm no fan of Scott. The only two films of his I like are, Alien & A Good Year. If he wants to make another one, fine, as long as I don't have to see it...& I don't!
I tend to agree, although I'd probably watch the sequel out of curiosity to see if the ludicrous first film could be rescued at all. I doubt it, though -- I can't get past Rafe Spall and Sean Harris, two very good actors, being completely wasted in unbelievably bad characterizations. The score wasn't half bad, though. (Must mention the music on this board!)
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Re: I thought Prometheus was dire, & I'm no fan of Scott. The only two films of his I like are, Alien & A Good Year. If he wants to make another one, fine, as long as I don't have to see it...& I don't!
I tend to agree, although I'd probably watch the sequel out of curiosity to see if the ludicrous first film could be rescued at all. I doubt it, though -- I can't get past Rafe Spall and Sean Harris, two very good actors, being completely wasted in unbelievably bad characterizations. The score wasn't half bad, though. (Must mention the music on this board!)
While I didn't exactly love "Prometheus," it continues to grow on me (as I've written elsewhere here), which was brought home to me yesterday when I finally saw "Star Trek: Into Darkness," which I put off what I expected to be an inevitable Blu-ray purchase until I had seen it. And, boy, am I glad I did, because as much as I liked J.J.Abram's first in the series, I just couldn't get into this second one, which never caught fire for me. Indeed, it wasn't until the closing credits when they brought back Alexander Courage's music for the original series that I felt any tug of emotion. In comparison, I stumbled across "Prometheus" on an HD cable channel while fleeing a rather boring final World Series game last night and it wasn't easy to NOT watch it for the umpteenth time. In the case of "Into Darkness," I mostly blame a script that never caught fire as well as the poor casting of Benedict Cumberbatch as a young Richardo Montalban ... err ... Khan. Many have debated whether or not Cumberbatch (whose fans refer to themselves as "CumberBitches") has much charisma, and I'm firmly among those who just don't see it. But "Into Darkness" just reinforces my feeling that Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" has been unjustly disparaged. Just look closely at some right here who just love it -- I can't say that I "love" it, but it's sure hard NOT to watch it!
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