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 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

Sorry that you found our performances GHASTLY.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it is nice to remember that there are real people involved in this reading your comments and how something critical is expressed might matter to the people reading it.


If I had realised that you were actually one of the performers involved here, I would have perhaps phrased my comment a little less pointedly, and for that, I apologise.

However, I do stand by my opinion that this rendition is awful !
Sorry !


 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

I wonder if Barry ever regretted giving away one of his most beautiful melodies to a Shampoo company ???


I know what you're getting at, but why would he?

The exposure was immense and it was the public response to the adverts that created the demand for a commercial recording. Without that exposure, nobody would have ever heard of this tune except a few die-hards.

Besides, you write as if he wrote it first and then gave it away later. I think it's more likely he was actually hired by the advertising agency to write this. If anything, he's the one that gained because he got paid to write it the first time and then he get to re-exploit it as a commercial recording and then again as a song.

Cheers



Yes, I understand that Barry was commissioned to write this piece and was, no doubt, paid handsomely for it.

What I meant was, did he later regret that he didn't save this beautiful theme for one of the Bond movies, or some other big film ?



 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I do think you were unnecessarily harsh, but that's kind of the point I was trying to make with sheetmusicman in another thread...it wasn't evident that the singers involved might be posting in the thread you made the negative comments in.

You should know that this is probably the least serious of the performances done and if you tried another one you might not have as negative a reaction. I for one enjoyed the song from The Cardinal: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99589&forumID=1&archive=0

Yes, it's still a rough first run through and they're having fun, but it's not as over the top intentionally goofy as this Barry selection. Also, sometimes the goofy approach is appropriate to the goofiness of the song, ie. I Love You Alice B. Toklas: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99626&forumID=1&archive=0

Similarly it's hard to deny the infectious group fun being had with Earle Hagen's Andy Griffith Show theme: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99673&forumID=1&archive=0

I myself particularly enjoyed The Detective as a first run-through: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99710&forumID=1&archive=0

Though kinda rough (no rehearsal!) the performance made me imagine Sinatra singing it himself, which would've been cool.

Finally, if it's just the singers that turn you off I still think you'd enjoy and be grateful for the excellent solo piano renditions:
Try Delerue's Interlude at the very least: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99575&forumID=1&archive=0

And if you're up for more I enjoyed a lot of the Goldsmiths:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99692&forumID=1&archive=0 (a lovely section of Escape from the Planet of the Apes...so lovely I didn't recognize it as being from the score at first!)
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99552&forumID=1&archive=0 (an extended suite from Explorers)
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99607&forumID=1&archive=0 (Gizmo's Theme from Gremlins)

The Thomas Newman selection from Real Genius I also found surprisingly lovely (surprising because of the goofy cover) to the point that I'm now curious about a commercial release of the score proper: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=99572&forumID=1&archive=0

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Pretty appalling performance of a gorgeous John Barry/Don Black song.
Are they sending up this song?

I'm sure they could do better with a little more practice

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Pretty appalling performance of a gorgeous John Barry/Don Black song.
Are they sending up this song?

I'm sure they could do better with a little more practice


As others have stated, it's all in the spur of the moment, have a bit of fun, this isn't for posterity kind of performance. I mean, just relax people, put down the rocks, they're not mocking Barry or anything.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   follow me   (Member)


As others have stated, it's all in the spur of the moment, have a bit of fun, this isn't for posterity kind of performance. I mean, just relax people, put down the rocks, they're not mocking Barry or anything.


For the singers sake I can only hope they were mocking Barry, because otherwise they should try to find another job as soon as possible. No matter how you look at it, in the singer´s interest this video should not have been released to the public. I´ve watched 2 or 3 of their other videos and the Barry one is by far the worst. There is not a bit of fun in watching this, except if you are some kind of a sadist, who likes to see how people fail.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Wow, any bit of humor around here?They stated their case of how they were going to do this whole venture. They are not selling you the product. For how they went about it much of it is competent and if they let loose sometimes with a lite manner approach while performing, SO WHAT. I don't know exactly where the complainers are coming from.Is it they feel their favorite composers are some type of Gods and it is a blasphemy for someone to perform their music any thing less then perfection. ok if that is the way you feel you should then be disgusted how the whole history of film music didn't have vocal attempts done on these fine pieces of music to bring it to mainstream levels.WHICH I THINK THIS EXPERIMENT IS TRYING TO BRING OUT IN ITS OWN WAY

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 10:06 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Here are two of the actual Barry-scored 1960s British TV spots:





There are other renditions on youtube if you poke around.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Let's get real here - there is one person posting in this thread - one sheetmusicman. The performers, one of whom I know and have worked with, are most certainly not posting in this thread.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2013 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I'm keen for more clips in this series.
Haven't laughed so much since I last watched Mr. Bean.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

The exaggerated phrasing and accent definitely says they are doing this tongue-in-cheek. The mild accents have been used throughout this series and even the best of them, like the Moross, Jarre and Delerue are just rough run-throughs, done in the party fashion sheetmusicman suggests they were done in. But if you are a fanatic for the composer maybe you could get offended at all this. As for me, I suggest they take a shot at Morricone's ORCA they can't get worse than the strain in Carol Connors voice in her vocal.

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

The exaggerated phrasing and accent definitely says they are doing this tongue-in-cheek. The mild accents have been used throughout this series and even the best of them, like the Moross, Jarre and Delerue are just rough run-throughs, done in the party fashion sheetmusicman suggests they were done in. But if you are a fanatic for the composer maybe you could get offended at all this. As for me, I suggest they take a shot at Morricone's ORCA they can't get worse than the strain in Carol Connors voice in her vocal.


Exactly. It's tongue-in-cheek.
It's like some musical number from a Disney animated movie.

Of course I was surprised when I opened the video - I didn't expect that kind of performance at all. But it's fun. And I love Barry. And I absolutely love this particular theme!

Relax, guys! cool

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   sheetmusicman   (Member)

The specific direction on this one was "Affected Diva" and "Mandy Patinkin"

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Sorry that you found our performances GHASTLY.

While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it is nice to remember that there are real people involved in this reading your comments and how something critical is expressed might matter to the people reading it.


I have a suggestion that I hope is constructive: why not record another version of this "straight" at your next gathering? I am sure the performers are talented enough to really impress. Bonus points of course for freshly shampooed hair...

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

This has never been one of my favourite Barry melodies. I wouldn't have said it to his face, but I always found the main part of it to be a little twee and forced. The best part of it for me is the bridge.

I'm afraid that it's exactly the sort of music you'd expect in a shampoo commercial!

TG

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Awful!

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

This has never been one of my favourite Barry melodies. I wouldn't have said it to his face, but I always found the main part of it to be a little twee and forced. The best part of it for me is the bridge.

I'm afraid that it's exactly the sort of music you'd expect in a shampoo commercial!

TG


Tall Guy,
didn't you record a version of this back in the 60's?
smile
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

This has never been one of my favourite Barry melodies. I wouldn't have said it to his face, but I always found the main part of it to be a little twee and forced. The best part of it for me is the bridge.

I'm afraid that it's exactly the sort of music you'd expect in a shampoo commercial!

TG


Tall Guy,
didn't you record a version of this back in the 60's?
smile
bruce



I thought we were never to speak of that again.

 
 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I've listened a few more times and for me it's crap.
If it's funny then I don't get the humour.

I'm sure they could do better!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2013 - 4:04 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I've listened a few more times and for me it's crap.
If it's funny then I don't get the humour.

I'm sure they could do better!


If I understand correctly, these videos were done in one or more marathon sessions, and I suppose it was inevitable that some steam would be required to be let off at some stage. This is pretty much the moment, by the look of it.

"John Barry and a shampoo commercial? Let's go for it!"

I can forgive them that smile

 
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