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Jan 30, 2013 - 5:43 AM
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Mr. Flint
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I think the reputation of And the Children Shall Lead is affected by Duning's interpolation of "Ring Around the Rosie" (kind of like Goldsmith's decision to use "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" in his IQ score)--it never fails to make me wince, but I agree the other aspects of the score are strong.
Including, I hope, his "noodling", Jeff! 
Besides, the interpolation of "RAtR" could have been done worse. Yes, the song can be ennerving, if just sung by little kids, but in this case, the instrumentation is lovely, and serves to build an extreme counterpoint to the cues describing the horrifying scenes the children are witnessing in this episodes. That way, the use of the song serves to amplify the horror (for the Enterprise crew) of the inexplicable ignorance the children are displaying in regard to the death of their parents. Besides, he is not just stating the basic initial six notes from the song, but is carrying on with an 11-note variation built on that melody, which, in my opinion, sounds beautiful. But as I wrote in my last post, it's all in the "ear of the listener". 
BTW, Duning had interpolated a song before, at least once: in his score for "Devil at 4 O'Clock", he used the song "Sur le Pont d'Avignon".
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Agreed, Mr Flint. I suppose it's similar to what Goldsmith called "fucking-around music". I think I contributed to a thread on that, but you won't find it under those words! Can't remember what it was. Some composers hold my attention no matter what they are doing, many others just seem to be covering up silence. Having heard the whole TREK set now, I'm glad to say that I hear very little "noodling" from anyone - which is pretty good going in 20-plus hours of music.
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Thanks Admiral! I use the term "treading water". By the way, I must say I hear NO noodling nor treading water in any of Duning's scores.
Yes, that's a good description, too.
To each his own. I haven't seen the eps in a couple of years, so just hearing the scores by themselves gives me the impression I described. Still, I'd rather tread water with these Duning scores than listen to the main themes of too many other scores (past and present).
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Does anyone know where one can find the brief cue that plays in Whom Gods Destroy when Kirk meets the rehabilitated Garth? I think it's a harpsichord piece.
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Ah, that's it. Good memory. Thanks Jeff.
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Can someone help me find another piece on the set once again? I find myself listening and listening to the set and I find a particular disc and get mired in it and re-listening to it. I think it is the theme or piece for Scotty, with the accordion music sounds somewhat Scottish. I actually heard it on one of the bonus features on the Season 1 Blu Ray set (I am rewatching the show while I listen to the set). I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Thanks all!
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I hhave a question why do some of the tracks for The Cage appear on disc 2 and some tracks for Mirror Mirror are listed as Season Library Music?
Why are the not with the original episodes tracks?
There were different variations of cues from Mirror, Mirror recorded for library purposes. Some of them are in fact used in Mirror, Mirror itself as well as the rest of season two.
As for the Cage music, I don't see what you're referring to.
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The set organizes season music by type (episode score, composer, library, alternates, source music etc) as best it can within space limitations. Not only is that most sensible on paper, it's most sensible as a listening experience as well.
I, for one, would certainly not want The Cage's library/effects music (from all three seasons) tacked on to the end of the episode score.
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Repetitive though [JUDD FOR THE DEFENSE] may be, its tone and orchestration is much more in line with what I would have liked for Star Trek as well.
No offense and all, but thank goodness we got Courage's vision of a theme for Star Trek and not yours. Phew.
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I have a little question, perhaps one of the Trek experts here can help me!
What piece of music is playing in the episode "A Private Little War" for the closing just before the end credits?
Captain Playoff No. 3 (Sad and Alone). Season 2 library track by Courage. Good stuff.
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