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 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Captain Playoff No. 3 (Sad and Alone). Season 2 library track by Courage. Good stuff.

Thanks very much!
The Episode had one of the most downbeat endings ever. The cue is perfect for it. Great stuff indeed!

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

The score in the heaviest rotation is The Man Trap. It sounds like an episode of the Twilight Zone, which is a supreme compliment from Onya Birri's humble perspective.

There is truly something for everyone. I've found The Man Trap to be the toughest first season score to get through. I can appreciate it, but I don't necessarily enjoy it. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Has anyone yet gone through the huge task of assembling track lists for all 79 episodes? It would be really interesting to see what that looks like...

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Has anyone yet gone through the huge task of assembling track lists for all 79 episodes? It would be really interesting to see what that looks like...

I started Balance of Terror. Never finished it. Like you said, it's a huge task.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

It's great to hear "The Cage" in better fidelity. I made an expanded version with some of the re-records and added a subsequent knockoff track that fits in perfectly.

The score in the heaviest rotation is The Man Trap. It sounds like an episode of the Twilight Zone, which is a supreme compliment from Onya Birri's humble perspective.


I second your humble perspectives! smile
My favorite scores are "The Cage", "The Man Trap" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before". I love this mysterious scoring for the unexplored outer space. It could all come right out of the music of the Outer Limits or the Twilight Zone!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



I second your humble perspectives! smile
My favorite scores are "The Cage", "The Man Trap" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before". I love this mysterious scoring for the unexplored outer space. It could all come right out of the music of the Outer Limits or the Twilight Zone!


Yes, "The Cage" with the loungy stuff alternating with the spooky electronics is very Outer Limits.

Do you know that knockoff track that I referred to? It is a Courage library cue that is similar to the lounge track on "The Cage." Different melody, but similar instrumentation and mood.

Do you, or does anyone, know if the "The Menagerie" included extra music beyond what was in "The Cage?"

One thing that made it hard for me to plow through the whole set in succession was constantly hearing that opening fanfare riff woven into so many cues over and over through the three seasons. I enjoyed the set much more when I started exploring it one disc at a time between other stuff.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

There's additional music in both "The Cage" (notably "Monster Illusion") and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" ("Power Mad," "Situation Grave").

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Returned to the set after a hiatus, with "What Are Little Girls Made Of?". For mono cues, these sound awesome. Especially the Ruk music. If I recall correctly, the end of the first "Ruk Attacks" cue, with the trombones really blasting, was reused in "Arena" after the Metrons stop the Enterprise and the Gorn ships, where it really gave a feeling of interstellar, unseen menace.

That was the great thing about TOS music. It could often be used in a gothic context, like "Little Girls", or a galactic context, like "Arena", and be equally effective.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Jeff, I've enjoyed the set so much, but was curious to know about two of the credits on "The Naked Time." The horn player Milton Gold is a name I've never come across (in my researching of Hollywood brass players) and also there's clearly a third trumpet player on that score which was not included (in the booklet listing). Do you by chance have a copy of the AFM orch reports and, if so, could you tell me who the third player was? I remember Uan Rasey and (I think, as I loaned out my set) Lenny Mach, so I'm assuming the other trumpet was Tony Terran (as he played on the majority of the sessions). Is this correct?

* - on some reports I've seen names added to the bottom if the original musician called cancels prior to the session. Perhaps this is the case with both "Time" and "Enemy Within," which sounds like more than the listed two (French) horns.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

For mono cues, these sound awesome.

I don't understand. Mono does not correlate to fidelity.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . but "awesome" does?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I cant find the announcement thread (since my comment isnt music-specific). With the Pope always sticking his foot in the news door, it got me wondering if everyone involved in this release has been nominated for Sainthood yet...or at least Knighthood. At least adapt the BC/AD Julian calender with ASTTOS. Unlike all the endless crap in life, it's fantastic that something so wonderful happened, and WONT die away. Must have been the hardest secret to keep since D-Day. smile

One abstract thing I like about the complete series release is it obviated any debate about which score/season deserved a release. It all exists therefore it all deserves a release. No reason to argue about it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Over Labor Day weekend I watched several episodes including the much criticized The Alternative Factor (well, I like it). In the scene where Lazarus sabotages the circuitry and causes a fire in the engineering control room, I noticed this is where the "Romulan Agitato" cue is tracked in from Balance of Terror. I also watched Balance of Terror and was listening for that cue and it was nowhere to be found. I wonder if it was written for a scene that was deleted from BOT.

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

It could also have just not be to Bob Justman's liking for the scene it was written for. A few episodes had music dropped but used in others. The Man Trap, for example, dialed out a bunch of music that wound up in other episodes. Gene Roddenberry actually hated The Man Trap score, feeling it was exactly opposite to the kind of music he wanted.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

wait, was Lukas saying this set originated from stolen masters? were they returned to CBS/paramount?

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   nicholasm79   (Member)

wait, was Lukas saying this set originated from stolen masters? were they returned to CBS/paramount?

No. The masters were in private hands until GNP/Crescendo obtained them in the late 80's and cared for them over the years. They were in excellent condition which is why this set is so awesome! :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

and CBS/paramount don't want them back? did GNP have to ask permission to keep the original masters?

how did a private collector get them to begin with?

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


The tapes were "disappeared" from Paramount in the early 1970s (exactly how, why and when, I don't know, but it was a different era and a lot of Star Trek stuff was "walked off" by fans). A (2nd) collector—a very good guy who believes in archival preservation—saw a classified ad offering them and purchased them from the first guy. GNP Crescendo acquired them from the (2nd) collector circa 1990 so they could be used for CDs. After the La La Land box set they were returned to CBS and EVERYBODY IS HAPPY as far as I can tell.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

I always thought the story of the guys opening the box in England that had the original Superman tapes was amazing. This tops that. And seems much less likely. Certainly true. Just really improbable.

I mean, there are SHIPS that no one knows where they are at, and we were lucky enough to keep all of the music and in good shape, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   chris123   (Member)

thanks for the clarification Lukas!

I've just have a personal strict aversion to profiting from theft, but since this seems on the up and up I feel comfortable buying now.

I really look forward to this set!

 
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