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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2010 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   Sabreman   (Member)

Given Jeff Bond's less than positive comments on this score in his Star Trek music book, I'm surprised he was given the job of writing the liner notes for this release.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2011 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

Is it possible that there is a mastering error in the very first beginning of the first track on my sample. It sounds like the beginning of the first sound is cut of and the music starts a moment after the orchestra starts to play.
That is not on the old soundtrack CD.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2011 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

If you're referring to disc one, track one then that performance take is not on the original album but rather the take used in the movie. Nothing is cut off on the CD either.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2011 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

If you're referring to disc one, track one then that performance take is not on the original album but rather the take used in the movie. Nothing is cut off on the CD either.

Neil


Neil speaks the truth. All the cues (except for Bird Of Prey Decloaks) on the original album were alternates and that's why it was included.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2011 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Let's not confuse the issue here. "The Mind-Meld", "Bird of Prey Decloaks", "The Katra Ritual" and "End Titles" were all on the original album and all match the film takes. They're the same on disc one and two.

The "Prologue and Main Title" tracks are different takes though and this sounds like what prompted the question.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 3:17 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

I'm not really sure that this score needs more exposure. After the excellent ST II it was just another lazy Horner "sequel score". And the Prokofiev rip-off that constitutes the best music in the score was already on the original CD. wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- I'm not really sure that this score needs more exposure. After the excellent ST II it was just another lazy Horner "sequel score". And the Prokofiev rip-off that constitutes the best music in the score was already on the original CD. wink

I would buy the CD if it had just had "Fighting Chance to Live" as the only additional track. Heck, the alternate "Klingons" track on disc 1 is way more interesting than what it was on the album. Horners use of the original theme is played out well in the tracks "The Klingon's Plan" and "Spock Endures Pon Farr". And what about the awesome, action packed climax "Genesis Destroyed"? Those were worth the price of the set alone.

You may call it a sequel score, but at least it doesn't have Leonard Nimoy's voice over on any of the tracks. "Excellent ST II" release my aunt fanny.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Sorry, but there is NO exceptional music in ST III. Other than the Prokofiev, i.e.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Sorry, but there is NO exceptional music in ST III. Other than the Prokofiev, i.e.

In YOUR opinion, Sir!
I beg to differ...

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 4:26 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

In my opinion, indeed.

ST III is to ST II what Cocoon II is to Cocoon. smile

NL: "The Death of of Tybalt" from ROMEO AND JULIET.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2011 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- ST III is to ST II what Cocoon II is to Cocoon..

A sequel? Even Jerry Goldsmith did sequels. Bad ones to.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Man was 2010 a good ass year. I believe this and the 2009 expanded came out right around the same time and it was fantastic! I listened to this last night and was reminded of the excitement. And now...3 years later we have all but 2 of the remaining film scores, and Im sure they are coming one of these days. Sometimes I just pull CDs off the shelf and remember the excitement.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Supe1701, remember the days when you (and I) longed to be spoiled Star Trek soundtrack collectors? It brings to mind the line in PLANET OF THE APES when Taylor (Charlton Heston) says to his dismayed fellow astronaut as they "trek" through the Forbidden Zone, "...you got what you wanted, Tiger. How does it taste?" Tastes delicious, thank you.

STAR TREK III surely isn't the main course of this particular feast, but you can't deny James Horner gave it every bit of effort he gave his other best scores. I'll never jump on the diss-Horner bandwagon. He gave us great stuff when some extra material filled a nice gap in the orchestral score scene.

If I can't be spoiled in any other area of life, I'll take this cherry with no complaints.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

STAR TREK III surely isn't the main course of this particular feast, but you can't deny James Horner gave it every bit of effort he gave his other best scores. I'll never jump on the diss-Horner bandwagon. He gave us great stuff when some extra material filled a nice gap in the orchestral score scene.

This was an excellent soundtrack release if I do say so myself. There's just something deep and moving about everything I hear in this score and it still remains one of my most played Star Trek scores to date.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

STAR TREK III surely isn't the main course of this particular feast,

It damn near was for me... wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Wow, we're already looking back on the "glory days"? But why not? Never again will we say "This is when we got it ALL."

Star Trek II and III are (to quote another movie from the summer of 1984) "Same but different." They're so close and so far apart. I can't think of another movie series where two scores were such perfect companions for each other. Not even Star Wars. (Someone will now produce something by Rosa or North from the 1950's that's better, I'm sure.)

II does II perfectly. And III does III perfectly. II does the high seas adventure to the bloody hilt. III gets the emotional core of Star Trek as precisely as anything since Amok Time. It's all so so wonderful. And I'm so glad to have all of it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2013 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

STAR TREK III surely isn't the main course of this particular feast,

Oh man, this was the score I've wanted for decades and it certainly was the main course for me. It is my all time favorite Horner score and a beautiful piece of work.

Both scores are top class and I often play them back to back. Like the films themselves, the first 3 Star Trek movies had me flying high, it's a period in Star Trek history I'll never get back: the return of my heroes in fun, adult adventures, played by the same actors who created the roles, before comedy and age robbed them of relevance.

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2013 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, I was extremely happy to get Star Trek II from FSM, but my second thought was about whether III could get a complete release. The unreleased music on it was just a much higher priority and really fleshed out the score to the point that I now definitely prefer listening to it as an album over its predecessor. I made a big thread about it here:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=69642&forumID=1&archive=0

And it someone else's sequel thread, Search for Spock got more votes too...
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=91023&forumID=1&archive=0

I think the score has really be reappraised now (by most people at least) and is no longer considered just a retread of the first score.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2013 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Well the good days arent over but we've surely had some great ones previously! smile I mean for me this came during a time before I was as active here on the boards (browsed through since 2007) , and this came out of no where for me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Well the good days arent over but we've surely had some great ones previously! smile I mean for me this came during a time before I was as active here on the boards (browsed through since 2007) , and this came out of no where for me.

IIRC ST II came out of nowhere for everyone. III was hoped for but by no means a done deal. Then by the time V came out it was a question of WHEN not IF for IV, VI, and finally TMP.

And the TOS box is still too insane to hope for. I have it and I'm not entirely convinced it exists.

 
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