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 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Hey, both movies were troubled, however MOS tips the scale by including what might be the single worst performance in a major studio film - or hey, ANY film - in years, Michael Shannon's eye rolling, mugging, scenery chomping, not-even-good-enough-for-LifetimeTV take as General Zod:




I mean come on... this was embarrassingly bad, folks. From the moment he first appeared onscreen it was like he was playing in some secret in-joke movie, all that gnashing of teeth. There was lots of things about MOS that sucked, but, Shannon was scary bad .


On the bright side and back on topic... I have worked out a fine trade to obtain LLL's Superman Returns score, so by week's end it will be mine big grin

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I mean come on... this was embarrassingly bad, folks. From the moment he first appeared onscreen it was like he was playing in some secret in-joke movie, all that gnashing of teeth. There was lots of things about MOS that sucked, but, Shannon was scary bad

You know whats funny about his performance is that they literally took all of Hugo Weaving's hamming it up in the Matrix Sequels and simply transposed it to another character / actor.

Its the same thing! Down to the crazy mouth movements and gnashing of teeth.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

I have very mixed feelings about Man of Steel. But I thought Zod was terrific. He never played him as a villain. He actually played him as a man who thought he was good against extraordinary odds. (But he was, of course, a monster.)

Superman Returns was so close to being the best Superman ever. It’s just so uneven. But from the time that Luthor grows the island to the end of the movie is just amazing. And Ottman’s score is the second best Superman score ever. (IMHO, of course.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I like IV second-best among Superman scores.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

I have very mixed feelings about Man of Steel. But I thought Zod was terrific. He never played him as a villain. He actually played him as a man who thought he was good against extraordinary odds. (But he was, of course, a monster.)

Superman Returns was so close to being the best Superman ever. It’s just so uneven. But from the time that Luthor grows the island to the end of the movie is just amazing. And Ottman’s score is the second best Superman score ever. (IMHO, of course.)


Seriously?

That whole plot about Lex making a kryptonite island is RIDICULOUS and makes no sense! How does he expect to sell the thing? Its all frigging rock! And lex has just made himself the worlds most wanted man by causing so much disaster.He wont be selling anything anytime soon.

Why does Superman not realise that his powers are gone when he lands on the island?

Why is it that ten minutes later he is able to lift the same entire MOUNTAIN of kryptonite? In the original film, just being within spitting distance of a small chunk of the stuff made him go all weak at the knees.

As for Ottmans score being the best since the original? Please.Alexander Courages score to Superman 4 is how you adapt Williams themes and make a great score.I listen to it even more often than the original.Ottmans score is just overbearing choir.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


Why is it that ten minutes later he is able to lift the same entire MOUNTAIN of kryptonite? In the original film, just being within spitting distance of a small chunk of the stuff made him go all weak at the knees.


Mind over matter. wink
Superman Returns is my second favorite Sup score by a mile.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Why is it that ten minutes later he is able to lift the same entire MOUNTAIN of kryptonite?

For the same reason that in MOS he's not able to "beat" the gravity thingy until all of a sudden he is? He exists in the movieverse, where willpower and need actually do make you stronger.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Ottman’s score is the second best Superman score ever. (IMHO, of course.)

Torn over this. Courage's Superman IV is fantastic, thrilling, heroic... but Ottman's score has some real goosebump moments that IV does not have. It is top 3 no doubt... the album version of Reprise / Fly Away and How Could You Leave US puts it right there as the second best ever but then Williams' Nuclear Man theme and Courage's action music .... arrrgh... I can't choose !


 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Love the score, but again, someone has to douche all over Gracenote:

Superman Returns (Lala Land) (Limited 3000) [Disc 1]

Track 14: "Bank Job§** [§ contains Superman Themes by John Williams/** contains previously unreleased material]"

The whole album was submitted like this. Fricking seriously?? God.... Yeah, first world problems and all that, but editing this crap out of iTunes is worse than typing it up from scratch myself...

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Love the score, but again, someone has to douche all over Gracenote.

Track 14: "Bank Job§** [§ contains Superman Themes by John Williams/** contains previously unreleased material]"

Every track was submitted like this. Fricking seriously?? God....


Do you mean the S symbols? If so ya I agree...that's why I don't include them when I rip the score to my hard drive.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

No, I mean all this extra information in each track. Why aren't the titles enough? or how about, don't pollute CGGB with personal library preferences?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

No, I mean all this extra information in each track. Why aren't the titles enough? or how about, don't pollute CGGB with personal library preferences?

Ah ya that is annoying, just leave it off when ripping to hard drive. At least it's not on the back cover itself...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Having been going through my whole CD collection I can't begin to note how much douchery and idiocy there is in online metadata. I've even seen multi-composer discs where there's composer alone, NO TITLE at all.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Having been going through my whole CD collection I can't begin to note how much douchery and idiocy there is in online metadata. I've even seen multi-composer discs where there's composer alone, NO TITLE at all.

I also agree with this. That's why I generally type up the info by hand. A lot of the tagging on metadata can be very sloppy too.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Love the score, but again, someone has to douche all over Gracenote

The day will come when Gracenote changes their policy about submitting information anonymously and on that day, I'll find out who the hell does those goddamn write-ups and I'm going to their house just to dump his garbage cans all over his driveway.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Actually I started a discussion about a month or 2 ago about my frustrations with Gracenotes!!! (But can't seem to find it now.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I hate it when GraceNotes gives you two choices to identify an album. If you pick the one that's done badly and you'll have to laboriously correct every track, there's seemingly no way to go back and pick the other one.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

I have yet to correct my iTunes rip of this CD. I just don't have the patience.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I hate it when GraceNotes gives you two choices to identify an album. If you pick the one that's done badly and you'll have to laboriously correct every track, there's seemingly no way to go back and pick the other one.

Its a trick, as both options are done badly!

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ZapBrannigan: Re: I hate it when GraceNotes gives you two choices to identify an album. If you pick the one that's done badly and you'll have to laboriously correct every track, there's seemingly no way to go back and pick the other one.

Since I buy a lot of classical music, that happens to me all the time, and, as you wrote, if you choose the wrong one you can't go back, which is very frustrating AND annoying.

 
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