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 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

There were some performances problems that we wanted to fix back in 1988 and couldn't, but this time we were able to.

Ford, are you able to clarify: By performance problems do you mean parts that needed to be re-performed/re-recorded for this reissue, or rather problems with sound quality that today's technology could address?


It's more of a case of a little retuning here and there, sweetening a bit of the strings with some samples to fatten it up (He did this on the show throughout the run), it's mostly spit and polish work then anything else.

Ford A. Thaxton


And sorry if I'm nitpicking, but I just want to understand the process: So in 2014 (or '13) there are some elements that Dennis has reperformed/re-recorded, is that correct? In other words, if one wants the strict original recordings of these, one needs to keep the old GNP in addition to the new release? Looks absolutely stellar, by the way! (Are these sweetenings annotated by Jeff in the booklet, and do they include Arsenal as well?)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

There were some performances problems that we wanted to fix back in 1988 and couldn't, but this time we were able to.

Ford, are you able to clarify: By performance problems do you mean parts that needed to be re-performed/re-recorded for this reissue, or rather problems with sound quality that today's technology could address?


It's more of a case of a little retuning here and there, sweetening a bit of the strings with some samples to fatten it up (He did this on the show throughout the run), it's mostly spit and polish work then anything else.

Ford A. Thaxton


And sorry if I'm nitpicking, but I just want to understand the process: So in 2014 (or '13) there are some elements that Dennis has reperformed/re-recorded, is that correct? In other words, if one wants the strict original recordings of these, one needs to keep the old GNP in addition to the new release? Looks absolutely stellar, by the way! (Are these sweetenings annotated by Jeff in the booklet, and do they include Arsenal as well?)


The original album is still it's own thing, this new one is the original soundtrack recording, it's just remixed,sweetened a bit here and there and some edits we did back in 1988 were cleaned up (This was long before we had digital editing, it was back in the old Razor and splice days.)

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Ah, razor-and-splice. Yes, I had finished film school the year before and there weren't no digital editing then. It was all tactile, cloth gloves, splicer and tape. I loved it!

Thanks, Ford. Looking forward to this. Would love, if possible, to read some notes on the sweetening process, if anyone is (or already was) inclined to write those. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Ah, razor-and-splice. Yes, I had finished film school the year before and there weren't no digital editing then. It was all tactile, cloth gloves, splicer and tape. I loved it!

Thanks, Ford. Looking forward to this. Would love, if possible, to read some notes on the sweetening process, if anyone is (or already was) inclined to write those. smile


No, it's just too boring


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)



No, it's just too boring


Ford A. Thaxton


Gotcha! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2014 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Dave Frolik   (Member)

I noticed a huge difference in the sample "Picard's Plan", the difference in the synth horn that plays the Courage theme is like day and night.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2014 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

I noticed a huge difference in the sample "Picard's Plan", the difference in the synth horn that plays the Courage theme is like day and night.

Wait you have a copy already? Or are there samples posted?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2014 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

I noticed a huge difference in the sample "Picard's Plan", the difference in the synth horn that plays the Courage theme is like day and night.

Wait you have a copy already? Or are there samples posted?


Samples are available on the BuySoundtrax listing:

http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/sttrnegeeatf.html

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2014 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

I noticed a huge difference in the sample "Picard's Plan", the difference in the synth horn that plays the Courage theme is like day and night.

Wait you have a copy already? Or are there samples posted?


Samples are available on the BuySoundtrax listing:

http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/sttrnegeeatf.html


Awesome! Sounds great!

 
 Posted:   Feb 26, 2014 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

I was happy to get a shipping notice today. I never purchased the first version of Encounter at Farpoint and am looking forward to giving it a listen.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   nick11a   (Member)

Just chiming in too. Very excited; ordered mine today.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2014 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Verity   (Member)

Got mine in the mail today. Initial thoughts on Encounter at Farpoint - there is a definite jump in quality. Strange that 1988 doesn't seem as long ago as it really is. The mix sounds wonderful. It's always a treat to come back to an old familiar favorite and discover new delights just under the surface.

A few tracks into Arsenal of Freedom - great choice to compliment this release. Early Next Gen. soundtracks had a wonderful and varied style.

Thanks to the producers of this album, and all those who toiled under yolk of their oppressive masters at GNP Crescendo. Well done to all involved! wink

Verity!

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

I am having my first listen now, but I am really impressed with how good the score is for Encounter At Farpoint. I didn't have the previous album, but I am glad I've got this one.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

I wasn't able to order until today. So hopefully by the end of the week I'll have my copy.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2014 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

This is a really great re-presentation of the pilot TNG score and another 1st season offering from Dennis McCarthy. I've had the "Encounter at Farpoint" soundtrack since 1988 and thus have been very used to its original album presentation, so the differences in this version stand out a bit more but they are all fine. The complete and chronological sequencing is the first major change, especially if one was accustomed to the first soundtrack release, which mixed up the cue order somewhat.

On the original album, tracks containing multiple shorter cues would include a short pause between each cue in that track, but here there is more cross-fading done between cues, lending an overall smoother listening experience, I think. I really prefer the crossfades to the brief pauses when there are short cues contained in one track. Also, the select, few new overdubs that Thaxton mentioned were added by McCarthy don't detract at all and probably won't be noticed by most listeners. You might have to really have all the original tracks memorized for 25 years to spot them! smile

"The Arsenal of Freedom" is a cool companion piece for the pilot score, seeing as its the only other action-adventure score from McCarthy during that 1st season. Some great, unnerving moments in the early cues on the planet, followed by some bristling, brassy action in the subsequent tracks. The saucer separation cue here is different than what was written and not used for the pilot, so I think it's pretty awesome to have them both on one album.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2014 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I am curious about the version of the Goldsmith theme that accompanies the saucer separation in “Encounter at Farpoint.” It seems to be a slightly different arrangement than the main and end titles — specifically, it there are a few extra notes toward the end that sound like it was starting the extension on the finale that McCarthy had edited down for the first season, although it is truncated as well.

I actually prefer McCarthy's cue. The Goldsmith theme is a bit too heroic for the scene.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Having got this yesterday I like it...all though I do think the volume levels are boosted up way to much. I had to lower everything down by 3 decibels for my iPod, except for the Main Titles and End Credits pieces. Those seemed fine...

I also compared "First Chase" from the original release to the new one and seems like there's more reverb to the new release...maybe I'm going crazy dunno but just seems like that to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

Having got this yesterday I like it...all though I do think the volume levels are boosted up way to much. I had to lower everything down by 3 decibels for my iPod, except for the Main Titles and End Credits pieces. Those seemed fine...

I also compared "First Chase" from the original release to the new one and seems like there's more reverb to the new release...maybe I'm going crazy dunno but just seems like that to me.


You're not crazy, I was thinking the same thing. I always felt the sound on the 1987 record/CD sounded great! The remaster is not as good to my ears; it is very bass heavy and more distant sounding. But I am thankful for all the added bits. And the artwork is stunningly good! But I am keeping my old CD.

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Glad to know I am not the only one thinking the new one has more reverb.

Ya this is another CD for the Trek releases that I'm keeping the original release. The others being Insurrection and Trek 09.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

I will say though that I think the mixing for The Arsenal Of Freedom is perfect and sounds great!

 
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