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 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I think there's enough score to mention Apollo 13. Every orchestral track interrupted with horrible cross-fades of characters speaking, sound effects or rock music. Truly the worst score release in the history of score releases!

I agree, thank goodness for the FYC.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Horner's THE NEW WORLD presents the score as he wanted it, but it's mostly unused music, and the beautiful main love theme from the actual film almost never appears on the CD, making just one brief, 5 second appearance. I played it once and never listened to it again.

I admittedly never saw the movie, but I love the CD.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

OK, I just thought of one -- the single-disc BEN HUR release which clusters all those grating rowing cues in sequence. It's like this 'clot' of aggravating music inbetween all the great cues. That album could do with a bit more balancing.

confused There is only one and only one rowing cue on the album -- at the end of side one of the LP. Are you perhaps referring to the single CD UK version of the Rhino release that came out as a 2CD set in the U.S.?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

The original LP's that were released for Back to The Future (MCA) and Gremlins (Geffen) have to rank right at the top of any "worst" list. It was the 80's. The days of the dreaded "mini" album. Long on pop songs and very short on the inclusion of the actual film score. The score snippets that were included were almost an afterthought to the songs. As I recall Silverado took a while to come out on Geffen and when it did I was half expecting it to only include Broughton's theme or a short suite and a bunch of filler. Thank goodness they got that one right.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Going into TV, Dominic Frontiere's Washington: Behind Closed Doors. So I put it on the turntable expecting to hear its splendid theme music.

Instead I heard a disco arrangement. I had to suffer through it, and now it's your turn...

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom as done by Polydor; the shortest of the lot and it doesn't have the film version of the end credits (my favourite such cue for all four movies). That it wasn't included when Concord expanded the first three Indy scores is the only drawback of that otherwise excellent boxed set.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   pierrefrance   (Member)

Mancini's RCA album, Dr NO and The spy who loverd me.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

The original LP's that were released for Back to The Future (MCA) and Gremlins (Geffen) have to rank right at the top. It was the 80's. The days of the dreaded "mini" album. Long on pop songs and very short on the inclusion of the actual film score. The score snippets that were included were almost an afterthought to the songs.

While I certainly sympathise (as do we all), the OP did specify score albums. At least Jerry Goldsmith got all of side B to himself!

As I recall Silverado took a while to come out on Geffen and when it did I was half expecting it to only include Broughton's theme or a short suite and a bunch of filler. Thank goodness they got that one right.

I saw that LP on sale when I was on holiday in London in '85. To this day I regret not buying it (not even on cassette, and not just because it had Rosanna Arquette on the back cover). Just because I hadn't seen the movie yet, due to it not having been released in the UK or Barbados at the time...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Both releases of Star Trek Nemesis don't show the score in its best light. There's no question to my mind that this is Goldsmith's weakest Trek score by a wide margin. There's far too many droning atmospheric cues and repetitive statements of Shinzon's theme to make the full score a worthwhile listen. Still, there's a solid 45 minutes worth of music in there, but the original release wasn't a great selection of cues.

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom as done by Polydor; the shortest of the lot and it doesn't have the film version of the end credits (my favourite such cue for all four movies). That it wasn't included when Concord expanded the first three Indy scores is the only drawback of that otherwise excellent boxed set.

That and the inexplicable inclusion of the truncated album cut of the Desert Chase cue in Raiders with a horrible jarring edit partway through the cue. Why, Concord, why?

CHris

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

That and the inexplicable inclusion of the truncated album cut of the Desert Chase cue in Raiders with a horrible jarring edit partway through the cue. Why, Concord, why?

CHris


Didn't someone say at the time the Concord CD came out that Williams preferred the album version of the Desert Chase cue and asked for it to be the version included?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

That and the inexplicable inclusion of the truncated album cut of the Desert Chase cue in Raiders with a horrible jarring edit partway through the cue. Why, Concord, why?

CHris


Didn't someone say at the time the Concord CD came out that Williams preferred the album version of the Desert Chase cue and asked for it to be the version included?


Apparently that is what Laurent Bouzereau stated in an interview when criticisms about the set started flailing.

Sometimes I wonder if the producers knew that releasing an expanded, yet incomplete set would allow for a later cashcow as with the Star Wars sets. From a business model its a brilliant idea.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Here's a handful that came to mind:

Alien
Independence Day
Die Hard 3
Wargames (for the dialogue)

And most of the 90's Varese scores. Kind of hard to fully accept a 30min album in a decade where scores averaged about 90mins.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

That and the inexplicable inclusion of the truncated album cut of the Desert Chase cue in Raiders with a horrible jarring edit partway through the cue. Why, Concord, why?

CHris


Didn't someone say at the time the Concord CD came out that Williams preferred the album version of the Desert Chase cue and asked for it to be the version included?


Apparently that is what Laurent Bouzereau stated in an interview when criticisms about the set started flailing.

Sometimes I wonder if the producers knew that releasing an expanded, yet incomplete set would allow for a later cashcow as with the Star Wars sets. From a business model its a brilliant idea.


I'd argue in the case of the Star Wars sets, that the original Arista anthology is, overall, superior to the special editions. Especially sound quality-wise.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Technically (at the time), I don't think it was a 'film score'. But it may have been and I'd just not seen it.
Back in 1983 I was in Egypt and one night went to the 'Son et Lumiere' (The Sound and Light Show) at The Temple of Karnak in Luxor. You stand / sit and look at the timed-illuminated areas while music, dialogue, and narration play in various languages. It was a spectacular night. Upon leaving the temple grounds we passed tables of things for sale. One thing caught my eye a double L.P. by Georges Delerue of The Sound and Light Show with songs/narration I'd just heard. I bought it even though it was not sealed. I had to wait till I got home to find out it was pretty scratchy. If you think of the sand, of course. Pretty bombastic as well. I only listened to it once and not since I gave up my turn-table around 1988, but I've got it in storage still in New York.

The moral to this? Never buy records at night in the desert, even if it says Delerue!

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I find my head nodding in agreement to all of the previous posts.

My contribution is "Highlander".
It didn't even get its own disc all to itself.
Criminal.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

The Crow. Most of the main themes and varations on it occupied 45 seconds with the rest of the album having very unmemorable music. Id acutally liek to see re-release expanded.

Exactly what is missing exactly?

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

The original LP's that were released for Back to The Future (MCA) and Gremlins (Geffen) have to rank right at the top of any "worst" list. It was the 80's. The days of the dreaded "mini" album. Long on pop songs and very short on the inclusion of the actual film score. The score snippets that were included were almost an afterthought to the songs. As I recall Silverado took a while to come out on Geffen and when it did I was half expecting it to only include Broughton's theme or a short suite and a bunch of filler. Thank goodness they got that one right.

You mean the BACK TO THE FUTURE album that sold over a million copies with 2 tracks by Alan Silvestri that made him a TON OF $$$$

That awful album?

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Going into TV, Dominic Frontiere's Washington: Behind Closed Doors. So I put it on the turntable expecting to hear its splendid theme music.

Instead I heard a disco arrangement. I had to suffer through it, and now it's your turn...



FYI, it was 1976 or 1977 when this first air and this album was clearly designed to appeal to the main stream audience and not score fans.

It was designed to have pop appeal.

I wasn't a fan of it myself, but I understand the reasoning behind doing it the way they did.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Here's a handful that came to mind:

Alien

Release in 1979 before we had CDS, so getting a 35 minute score album at that time was nothing short of a miracle.

Independence Day
It was a fairly long CD given it was recorded AFM, which at the time was pretty good.

Die Hard 3
Album master had to be locked and the CD shipped out to meet the opening date of the film BEFORE the score was was finished.

Wargames (for the dialogue)
Not a bad album overall, the dialogue was fun to hear 1983 when it came out. The fact it got a release at the time was something of a surprise since none was played when the film opened.

HAnd most of the 90's Varese scores. Kind of hard to fully accept a 30min album in a decade where scores averaged about 90mins.

That of course was a AFM payment issue which has more or less been solved since then.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
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