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 Posted:   Dec 2, 2016 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Of course I welcome the announcement of Williams or any great composer getting another franchise assignment because they will figure out how to bring something new to it more than your average composer. And yet these don't excite me as much as new subject matter or some new challenge that would inspire a new sound or approach. To boldly go where no composer has gone before. But that's another story.

I have to agree with that. I love his STAR WARS music as much as the next guy, but the mind boggles when it thinks of what Williams could do if he got a really challenging, more cerebral film to work with in his old age -- like IMAGES. I'd like to see him tap into that territory again (it's not that farfetched -- several composers these days, like Jonny Greenwood for Paul T. Anderson, nurture a similarly avantgarde sound).


I think Lincoln fit that bill!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2016 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

What? John Williams is scoring Star Wars 8?

I believe I knew this fact two years ago.

Boring Thread...

Ok back to normal.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2016 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Ye gawds they are going to suck Williams dry until he reaches his grave, then will extract DNA from his brain cells, to get more SW music out of him.

And I guess he is suffering all the way to the bank... smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


John Williams starts recording music for STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII at Sony today. The bulk of scoring will be in the spring.


https://www.facebook.com/scoringsessions/posts/1645548768804341

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2016 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I was at Sony today, and I saw that that's who was in there!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2016 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Could he have been scoring the first teaser trailer?

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Two pictures of Kobe Bryant's visit to the recording sessions:

https://www.facebook.com/MontageFilmComposers/photos/a.311226809044672.1073741828.308140492686637/717996401701042/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BN-2sXygNs8/

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BN-2sXygNs8/

It's funny, Mark looks a bit like Goldsmith in this picture.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Hey, he kinda does!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

Hey, he kinda does!

Jason, you need to edit the thread title, you've got the wrong Roman numeral!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Why are people here so touchy about who started threads? Jesus...

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

John, we've already covered THAT in a different thread, too. Come on, man.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2017 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Master-blaster control freak syndrome......
Nauseating, who run Bartertown ?!?!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2017 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   Coco314   (Member)

Why are people here so touchy about who started threads? Jesus...

I couldn't care less on who starts a thread, it is just that having 3 (or much more..) threads on the same movie is a bummer. I researched some more or less old movies recently and it is very often the case, and we are dealing with an upcoming movie here, it's not hard to find/remember that there was one or two already. Because then you have multiple discussions running in parallel, redundancy, and it is much nicer to have the whole project history in one place (see current Logan or Split threads)

To put it simply, creating a new thread each time a movie is finally assigned / switches composers / has title reveal / changes title / co-composer added / whatever is really unnecessary and impractical, imho, that's all.

No big deal, there are much bigger issue on Earth for sure (and it has been discussed a million times before), but please be reasonable, because once this has started it's too late (I don't even know where to post this). And I am off on this.

Back to the subject: Title is nice, simple, intriguing ("Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones" were king of goofy, even if on purpose). Will we have a lot of "Luke's theme", that has not been used much in a while?
Recording session already: great. I suppose Williams will switch to "Ready Player One" before going back for final editing late summer? Or is the movie ready that early?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


There was a LAST JEDI scoring session in LA today. That's encouraging.

https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/830649209434972160


LAST JEDI scoring update. Last Thursday was John Williams' 85th Birthday. He's conducting. Rian Johnson wants to use the score for editing.

https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/830816741726969856


So the film will be temp-tracked with its own score?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

I have mixed feelings about editing to the score and not visa versa. Williams can score with such precision that you potentially lose something by reversing the process. I don't see how it would be possible to edit with the same precision. It is one thing to do that in a film like JFK where so much of the film is kind of a montage. It is another thing to do it with a Star Wars film where there is so much action and where Williams normally might have a dozen sync points in a minute of action if not more. Best case scenario, he has a very strong sense of the flow of the scene and the approach allows him to make strong musical choices that in turn make for strong editing choices. Worse case scenario, there is a lot of cut and pasting with the music. Could make for a better soundtrack and a worse score but who knows at this point. We'll have to wait and see/hear.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Escape/Chase/Saying Goodbye from ET says "hi"

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

That would be an example of how it can make sense because he already scored the scene with all the sync points and it was more a question of turning off projector for performance. That would be more of my best case scenario where just small adjustments in editing are made. Not clear from what I've seen quoted if that is what he is planning on doing.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

See, I didn't read it at all as temp tracking to his own music, my takeaway from that was he would be writing some theme suites a la Zimmer for the director to take inspiration from. Kinda like the concert arrangements Williams always does, only before instead of after.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Not clear from what I've seen quoted if that is what he is planning on doing.

Well yes. The seven words "wants to use the score for editing" could mean a lot of things, and I'm guessing the truth is a lot more nuanced.

These days, a movie like this is continually tweaked until right up to release, making the scoring a bit of a chicken/egg proposition. But I'd have to guess large sections of the movie are in rough and not-so-rough shape now, and that in general, Williams is scoring to some sort of picture, even if that picture is flexible. To me, that's a nice balance, a symbiotic melding of music and picture. But of course, there is no one way to do any of this, and no one way to do it wrong, for that matter.

 
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