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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2003 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Agreed, Man with the Golden Gun is an underappreciated score. I love it, though the melody works better in the score than as a song, it's quite gorgeous. I think it would rank higher on my list of Barry Bond scores than VIEW/KILL or OCTOPUSSY. I must admit though, that the slide whistle could've been dropped from the album and I would not have shed a tear!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2003 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   BJN   (Member)

I really don't wanna be known as the guy whose only joy is spotting others' small sequencing mistakes, but...smile

FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
"Death of Grant" consists of two cues: 1. explosion at Kerim Bey 2. death of grant (2nd cue not used in the film but syncs fine).

"Guitar Lament" is not in the film.

"Leila Dances" is not even CLOSE to the music used in the film for Leila's belly dance. It's more than just a different version, it's different music.

THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
Track 4 ("The Man with the Golden Gun") is heard in the movie for a few seconds when Bond leaves Saida's room (Saida: "I've lost my charm!" - Bond: "Not from where I'm standing."). So the sequence should be: 2, 1, 5, 4, 8 etc.

"Slow Boat from China / Nick Nack" (from BOND BACK IN ACTION 2) should precede track 12.

MOONRAKER
On the original Bond thread (started by Lukas) there's a complete cue list for this film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2003 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)


Thanks AlphaSigOU, RobotSam and BJN!!!

Three down, four to go. Anyone know the sequencing for "Dr. No", "The Spy Who Loved Me", "Octopussy" and "A View To A Kill"?

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   RobotSam   (Member)

Help me out here BJN. I'm going to take a stab at Octopussy without benefit of having the CD or movie handy at the moment. Since there's a difference in the track numbers between the latest release and the previous Ryko release (which included dialog snippets as additional inserted tracks), I'm going to write out the cue names.

Bond Look Alike
All Time High (the first one)
009 Gets The Knife et al
That's My Little Octopussy
Bond At The Monsoon Palace
Arrival At The Island Of Octopussy
Bond Meets Octopussy
Yo Yo Fight et al
Chase Bomb Theme
Palace Fight
All Time High (second one)

I'm admittedly fuzzy on whether the Arrival cue precedes or follows Bond meeting O. It seems to me the Arrival cue occurs when Louis Jourdan takes the boat over to O's place, and that when he gets there Bond's already there. So that would mean Bond would've already met O meaning their cue together would've happened already. But I'm thinking the Bond meets O cue happens with that big bed scene, which follows Louis Jourdan's visit? Oh well, this is what BJN is for.

BJN, thanks for the Golden Gun correction regarding track 4. I'll have to check it out next time I watch the film.

I purposefully left off the Bond Back In Action cue, since it's a re-recording on a different album and I was only focusing on the original soundtrack. Not that I'm knocking the BBIA discs--they're great taken on their own. But for me just not the same as original Barry.

BTW: this is my second attempt at posting this response. My first attempt erred with a SQL problem of some sort.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   AlphaSigOU   (Member)

I really don't wanna be known as the guy whose only joy is spotting others' small sequencing mistakes, but...smile

FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
"Death of Grant" consists of two cues: 1. explosion at Kerim Bey 2. death of grant (2nd cue not used in the film but syncs fine).

"Guitar Lament" is not in the film.

"Leila Dances" is not even CLOSE to the music used in the film for Leila's belly dance. It's more than just a different version, it's different music.


No problem there... thanks for the corrections! If I remember correctly, the FRWL soundtrack as sequenced in the soundtrack album is nearly (but not totally) complete. Guess I'll hafta wait a few more years before it gets the treatment it deserves. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)


Thanks, RobotSam!!

Four down, three to go. Anyone care to tackle "Dr. No", "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "A View To A Kill"?

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   RobotSam   (Member)

Darn, nearly had it. I checked my Octopussy DVD when I got home and realized two of my cues were reversed. Here's the final, last word, corrected order of cues:

Bond Look Alike
All Time High (the first one)
009 Gets The Knife et al
That's My Little Octopussy
Arrival At The Island Of Octopussy
Bond At The Monsoon Palace
Bond Meets Octopussy
Yo Yo Fight et al
Chase Bomb Theme
Palace Fight
All Time High (second one)

Also checked my Golden Gun DVD. Sorry BJN, but track 4 does not appear after the Saida scene. There is a piece of dixieland jazz playing, but it's not the Golden Gun theme music. It sort of sounds like a piece of traditional jazz but I'm not sure. Heck, maybe it's a Barry original never before released. Anyhow, my initial cue order for that score stands. (Again, I'm not counting the Bond Back In Action cue from Golden Gun.)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 3:21 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



Ford,
And I wish you would shut your yap and do the following:


And that is your clever comeback?


Just accept your defeat and don't keep making a fool of yourself.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)



You can always count on me to give a thread a reality check when it needs it.


Ford A. Thaxton


What reality check was needed in this thread, Ford? I posted very clear programming and editing instructions for those that wanted to hear some of the Bond scores in chronological order. There was no bad mouthing of these albums. There was no complaining about the lack of music on some of them. There were absolutely no "fanboy" complaints anywhere. I just wanted to provide a little section on this board for people to post the chronological order for these albums. Is that so outrageous? Am I living in some sort of dream world?

So far I've received very constructive comments from everyone who has posted in this thread, except for you. If you're willing to help with sequencing the Bond albums, great. I would love your input. But all you seem to want to do is put others down. I'm sure it makes you feel good, but I don't appreciate you cluttering up the thread that I started with useless comments. Please consider this before you reply. If you have nothing constructive to add, please don't say anything.

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Batmusicfan   (Member)

I don't know how you could any clearer, Neil. I had "trouble" with Ford the very first time I posted here. He IS an ass.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Neil, don't worry about Ford. You did a great job on your sequencing and I appreciate it (I'm one who prefers to hear these scores in film order). You obviously enjoyed putting this together, so it was time well spent. Who cares if Ford thinks it's a waste of time. I think most of us in this thread appreciate your effort.

As with any bully, the best tack is to ignore them.

Roger Feigelson



What reality check was needed in this thread, Ford? I posted very clear programming and editing instructions for those that wanted to hear some of the Bond scores in chronological order. There was no bad mouthing of these albums. There was no complaining about the lack of music on some of them. There were absolutely no "fanboy" complaints anywhere. I just wanted to provide a little section on this board for people to post the chronological order for these albums. Is that so outrageous? Am I living in some sort of dream world?

So far I've received very constructive comments from everyone who has posted in this thread, except for you. If you're willing to help with sequencing the Bond albums, great. I would love your input. But all you seem to want to do is put others down. I'm sure it makes you feel good, but I don't appreciate you cluttering up the thread that I started with useless comments. Please consider this before you reply. If you have nothing constructive to add, please don't say anything.

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 10:21 PM   
 By:   MLAM   (Member)

Anyone care to sequence the Never Say Never Again OST???

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2003 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)


All this re-sequencing of the Bond
soundtracks seems like a lot of fun.
Something I've always wanted to do.
Man! THUNDERBALL and YOLT are gonna
be a lot of work. However, one thing
that I personally would stick to, as
far as the previous releases go, is to
keep the Main Title-Vocal as the first
track, then everything else in sequential
film order. For example:

1) DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER (VOCAL)
2) GUNBARREL AND MANHUNT
...Then everything else in correct film
sequence. It just sounds better to me,
from a musical standpoint.

Dennis

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   RobotSam   (Member)

For you LALD fans, here's a more detailed breakdown since some of the cues are mini-suites, portions of which play before and after other cues:

15a - Gunbarrel

2 - jazz funeral murder

15b - Snakebit

1 - title tune

16ab - first two parts of this multi-cue track (the sheer magnetism unzipping scene followed by the 747 scene)

4 - Bond's car crash in NY

16c - Oh Cult Voodoo shop scene

14 - Bond's taxi ride into Harlem

8c - Fillet of Soul Harlem

3 - Bond meets Solitaire

16d - very short cue at the end of this track occurs when CIA man gets the drop on Bond in Harlem back alley

6 - Baron Samedi's dance performance

7 - Bond debugging San Monique hotel while this "source" music plays outside at Baron Samedi's show

5 - snake in Bond's bathroom

18 - combination of scenes, from Rosie in Bond's hotel room, followed by hiring Quarrel Jr.'s boat, to Bond & Rosie lovemaking, and finally Rosie's death

9a - first 45-50 seconds as Bond hangglides down to Solitaire's island home

19 - Bond & Solitaire's lovemaking

10 - Bond & Solitaire walking across island

20ab - first two parts of this multicue track (doubledecker bus scene & New Orleans airport scene)

2 - insert this one a second time here if you really want to be complete, since the jazz funeral scene in N.O. is more or less repeated in the film

8ab - Fillet of Soul New Orleans / Live & Let Die by B.J. Arnau

20c - scene where Teehee nearly snips Bond's finger in Mr. Big's underground hq in New Orleans

12 - Solitaire slapped around by Mr. Big

11 - croc farm

21 - boat chase bits

13 - island voodoo sacrifice scene w/Solitaire

22 - actually the very first bit of this happens midway in cue 13, when the sacrifice scene halts momentarily for Baron Samedi's arrival from the grave--I found it tricky to insert this and decided not to; remainder of cue is in Mr. Big's cavern lair, culminating in Mr. Big's death; very end bit plays over Baron Samedi's appearance on front of train

1 - for completion you can include this a second time, since a shortened version of the title track plays over the end credits


Two cues not in film:

9b - at about the 45-50 second mark through to the end, the majority of this groovy cue is not in the film

17 - alt version of San Monique cue


Fun bonus trax from other cd's:

LALD radio promo from 30th anniversary Bond CD set

Chrissie Hynde version of title track from David Arnold's Shaken & Stirred CD


And there you have it. Now what we need is a similar breakdown of FYEO, which is another jumble of cut and paste cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   BJN   (Member)

RobotSam, TMWTGG: you're right, I was wrong. I really thought I heard Track 4 1:13 -1:26 in this scene without actually double-checking it. I watched the movie yesterday again, and of course it's not "The Man with the Golden Gun". frown I think it was just kind of "wishful listening" from my part...
Yeah, your sequence is absolutely correct! smile

Octopussy: luckily for me there aren't any extra tracks I could claim to have heard on the wrong spots... wink Sequencing is simple - the whole album is in chronological order, except the pretitle scene and the main title, which are reversed.

AlphaSigOu, FRWL: There are 21 unpublished cues! Fortunately many of them are very short (60 secs or less) and you're right: the album includes most of the music - but only till Bond boards the Orient Express. Lots of train music and nearly all of the action cues from the end (helicopter, SPECTRE boats) is missing. If you count Silva's Bond Back in Action, it has "The Zagreb Express" which should be sequenced between "Death of Kerim" and "Man Overboard - Smersh in Action".

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)


AlphaSigOu, FRWL: There are 21 unpublished cues! Fortunately many of them are very short (60 secs or less) and you're right: the album includes most of the music - but only till Bond boards the Orient Express. Lots of train music and nearly all of the action cues from the end (helicopter, SPECTRE boats) is missing. If you count Silva's Bond Back in Action, it has "The Zagreb Express" which should be sequenced between "Death of Kerim" and "Man Overboard - Smersh in Action".


The two action cues for the helicopter and SPECTRE boat sequences are tracked in from DR. NO. The cheesy style is unmistakable. They also contain the portions of the James Bond theme that are attributable to Monty Norman.

FRWL boasts a great gun barrel. It's too bad the masters were missing, if only to rescue that one. The train music is exceptional as well. Damn. Where are those masters?

Roger

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   BJN   (Member)

Actually AlphaSigOu did indicate those two Norman cues in his original post I simply forgot it. embarrassment

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)



FRWL boasts a great gun barrel. It's too bad the masters were missing, if only to rescue that one. The train music is exceptional as well. Damn. Where are those masters?

Roger


I have never been aware that FRWL had a gunbarrel logo. My memory of the film is restricted to the usual television airings (I 'haven't seen the DVD yet) and it's always just started with the 'stalking' sequence - no gunbarrel! Maybe they just cut it off!

I've also seen a version of YOLT on TV which switches the capsule in space sequence for Bonds death, so basically the film opens with Bonds death and the capsule sequence came in after the title song?!! For whatever reason or what this achieved - i have no idea, but they sometimes do strange things like that when films are aired on TV here downunder.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)



I have never been aware that FRWL had a gunbarrel logo. My memory of the film is restricted to the usual television airings (I 'haven't seen the DVD yet) and it's always just started with the 'stalking' sequence - no gunbarrel! Maybe they just cut it off!

I've also seen a version of YOLT on TV which switches the capsule in space sequence for Bonds death, so basically the film opens with Bonds death and the capsule sequence came in after the title song?!! For whatever reason or what this achieved - i have no idea, but they sometimes do strange things like that when films are aired on TV here downunder.


Same thing happened to OHMSS on it's first network showing. ABC did some real re-editing to pad the movie out for it's first showing. It begins with Bond escaping from Piz Gloria, then goes into flashbacks of the rest of the movie.

Subsequent showings fixed this.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2003 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

RobotSam, great list for the LALD album. Would it be possible to list track times, so we can edit this a little more precisely?

The ABC broadcast of YOLT did in fact jumble Bond's death and the capsule in space, but you hardly described the horror of it. It started with the gunbarrel, then went to the first shot of the space capsule. Then instead of cutting to the interior of the capsule, it cut to the shot of Bond dead in bed and went into the credits. After the credits, we have the shot of the coast line, and instead of cutting to Bond's funeral, we go back to the capsule. The pre-titles play normally, but after the line, "He'd of wanted it that way" it cuts right to his funeral.

Neil

 
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