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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)

Do the notes mention anything about how Intrada found the score? I guess this one is flying of the shelves?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   vkoutsounakis   (Member)

Hey guys..
The following link leads to a brief review of the score as it is heard in the movie in cross-reference with both the Intrada cd and the Varese "Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox" box set 19 minutes content. Just a few words after noticing the score in the movie and listening both cd pressings. Spoilers ahead so read with caution...

http://itscorez.com/2017/12/08/intrada-offers-goldsmiths-damnation-alley/

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

"Extremely adequate score"? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   vkoutsounakis   (Member)

More than extremely!! Thanks for reading it Jeff and excuse the mediocre English...

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Hey guys..
The following link leads to a brief review of the score as it is heard in the movie in cross-reference with both the Intrada cd and the Varese "Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox" box set 19 minutes content. Just a few words after noticing the score in the movie and listening both cd pressings. Spoilers ahead so read with caution...

http://itscorez.com/2017/12/08/intrada-offers-goldsmiths-damnation-alley/


Nice job! I did a similar thing over a year ago, here on this board with a linked YouTube vid of the film -- I like to think what we did is complementary rather than merely redundant:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117082&forumID=1&archive=0

One thing I am curious about is this: As I understand it, Leigh Phillips reperformed all of the synth elements for this new Intrada version. But some of the 19 minutes on the Varese box actually did have the original synth performance, as if it wasn't all lost. (I think you note this in what you wrote.) I wonder why Intrada wouldn't include some of those original synth versions, even if relegated to a bonus section at the end -- it's not as if there wasn't room on the disc! They even mention supplying stems to Leigh in order to help him recreate the synth parts. It would have been wonderful if those same stems could have been salvaged in some fashion as Chris Malone suggested in the thread I started (the one I just linked to above), and appended to the end of this new release just for those who prefer the original, even in compromised sound quality. Sounds like I'll have cause to keep some of the Varese cues with surviving original synths to do just that in iTunes.

But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth -- this new release is AMAZING and will, I am sure, be a perfect listening experience. Can't wait to hear my copy but it's going to be a Christmas present so I'll have to wait a little bit longer to hear it, sadly. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

One thing I am curious about is this: As I understand it, Leigh Phillips reperformed all of the synth elements for this new Intrada version.

Very BSX with "A Whale For The Killing" and "Something Sweet."

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

Hey guys..
The following link leads to a brief review of the score as it is heard in the movie in cross-reference with both the Intrada cd and the Varese "Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox" box set 19 minutes content. Just a few words after noticing the score in the movie and listening both cd pressings. Spoilers ahead so read with caution...

http://itscorez.com/2017/12/08/intrada-offers-goldsmiths-damnation-alley/


Nice job! I did a similar thing over a year ago, here on this board with a linked YouTube vid of the film -- I like to think what we did is complementary rather than merely redundant:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117082&forumID=1&archive=0

One thing I am curious about is this: As I understand it, Leigh Phillips reperformed all of the synth elements for this new Intrada version. But some of the 19 minutes on the Varese box actually did have the original synth performance, as if it wasn't all lost. (I think you note this in what you wrote.) I wonder why Intrada wouldn't include some of those original synth versions, even if relegated to a bonus section at the end -- it's not as if there wasn't room on the disc! They even mention supplying stems to Leigh in order to help him recreate the synth parts. It would have been wonderful if those same stems could have been salvaged in some fashion as Chris Malone suggested in the thread I started (the one I just linked to above), and appended to the end of this new release just for those who prefer the original, even in compromised sound quality. Sounds like I'll have cause to keep some of the Varese cues with surviving original synths to do just that in iTunes.

But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth -- this new release is AMAZING and will, I am sure, be a perfect listening experience. Can't wait to hear my copy but it's going to be a Christmas present so I'll have to wait a little bit longer to hear it, sadly. smile

Yavar


Intrada supplied me with orchestral stems only - the original synths that appear on those particular tracks were actually laid down live on the recording stage (so, effectively, they form part of the raw orchestral stem).

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar


That's about the shape of it (however, there was a rather large amount of filling to do - there's essentially only one type of synth on the original stem).....but if there's trouble spotting the joins, then that'll do for me!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar


That's about the shape of it (however, there was a rather large amount of filling to do - there's essentially only one type of synth on the original stem).....but if there's trouble spotting the joins, then that'll do for me!!


Did you use VSTs or an actual ARP?

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   LeighPhillips   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar


That's about the shape of it (however, there was a rather large amount of filling to do - there's essentially only one type of synth on the original stem).....but if there's trouble spotting the joins, then that'll do for me!!


Did you use VSTs or an actual ARP?


Virtual models - there's barely enough room in my home for me, let alone a few vintage ARPs!

There's some detail in the booklet re the creation of the synth stuff.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar


That's about the shape of it (however, there was a rather large amount of filling to do - there's essentially only one type of synth on the original stem).....but if there's trouble spotting the joins, then that'll do for me!!


Did you use VSTs or an actual ARP?


Virtual models - there's barely enough room in my home for me, let alone a few vintage ARPs!

There's some detail in the booklet re the creation of the synth stuff.


Thanks. I occasionally use Reason. Might pick up a good ARP vst and noodle around with it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2017 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Orrence   (Member)

Thanks for the info, Leigh. So does this mean that on the Intrada release, some synths are the original performance (presumably the ones that were present on the Varese release) and you just filled in all of the ones that were missing?

Yavar


That's about the shape of it (however, there was a rather large amount of filling to do - there's essentially only one type of synth on the original stem).....but if there's trouble spotting the joins, then that'll do for me!!


Did you use VSTs or an actual ARP?


Virtual models - there's barely enough room in my home for me, let alone a few vintage ARPs!

There's some detail in the booklet re the creation of the synth stuff.


Thanks. I occasionally use Reason. Might pick up a good ARP vst and noodle around with it.


The demo video is to follow as soon as Leigh gives me the go-ahead to post the link . He's made another one : shorter than the first but it shows how it was done.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2017 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   vkoutsounakis   (Member)

Hey guys..
The following link leads to a brief review of the score as it is heard in the movie in cross-reference with both the Intrada cd and the Varese "Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox" box set 19 minutes content. Just a few words after noticing the score in the movie and listening both cd pressings. Spoilers ahead so read with caution...

http://itscorez.com/2017/12/08/intrada-offers-goldsmiths-damnation-alley/


Nice job! I did a similar thing over a year ago, here on this board with a linked YouTube vid of the film -- I like to think what we did is complementary rather than merely redundant:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117082&forumID=1&archive=0

One thing I am curious about is this: As I understand it, Leigh Phillips reperformed all of the synth elements for this new Intrada version. But some of the 19 minutes on the Varese box actually did have the original synth performance, as if it wasn't all lost. (I think you note this in what you wrote.) I wonder why Intrada wouldn't include some of those original synth versions, even if relegated to a bonus section at the end -- it's not as if there wasn't room on the disc! They even mention supplying stems to Leigh in order to help him recreate the synth parts. It would have been wonderful if those same stems could have been salvaged in some fashion as Chris Malone suggested in the thread I started (the one I just linked to above), and appended to the end of this new release just for those who prefer the original, even in compromised sound quality. Sounds like I'll have cause to keep some of the Varese cues with surviving original synths to do just that in iTunes.

But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth -- this new release is AMAZING and will, I am sure, be a perfect listening experience. Can't wait to hear my copy but it's going to be a Christmas present so I'll have to wait a little bit longer to hear it, sadly. smile

Yavar


Yavar your work in DAMNATION ALLEY score that was posted a year ago isawesome! I hadn't noticed that you have offered such a labor of love to the FSM message board readers! I will check them all!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2017 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Wow stellar release Intrada. The re-recorded synth sounds amazingly original. Bravo to all involved.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2017 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

Did you use VSTs or an actual ARP?

Virtual models - there's barely enough room in my home for me, let alone a few vintage ARPs!



OMG!!! VST samples on a Goldsmith reconstruction??? Where's the torrents of DAMNATION!

razz wink

In all seriousness, outstanding work Mr. Phillips! Great to hear an important Goldsmith work come to life at long last.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Nils   (Member)

You have this to look forward to in her Damnation Alley notes:
"Antoine de Saint Exupéry memorably wrote that 'What is essential is invisible to the eye'; Jerry Goldsmith understood that, by the same token, the essential, via great music, was available to any willing ear."


To be fair, that's basically the only sentence in the liner notes in that vein. Kirgo seems to have been, um, watching her language a bit in her more recent liner notes.

As for the CD itself: Wow! I've just listened to it for the first time, and that was the most rewarding half hour of listening I've had in a long time.
Phillips'synth work is outstanding - to my ears, there's nothing that indicates that this wasn't a part of the original recording.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

This is the release of the year for me. The synth recreations are pretty damn good. Prime Goldsmith. I noticed a few differences between the Fox box, most notably “A Different World” or “After the Holocost”
It seems to be a different take used in the Fox box. It also appears that “A New Day” on the Fox box was an alternate cue (which is at the end of the Intrada disc) They’re both very cool. The alternate “Voyage Begins” is very interesting. Seems like it was written for a completely different scene.
I can’t get enough of the “trek” cues - essentially all the scenes in the landmaster. I absolutely love how the synth clicks along with the orchestra, almost foreshadowing his approach to Total Recall. I really wish he scored more sci-fi/ action stuff like this.
There’s very little dialogue in those scenes and Goldsmith carries it all.
“Don’t Bug Me” is one of his best, most aggressive action cues of the 70’s.
The music really does tell the story in this film. With most of the characterization and dialogue thrown out the window, it really came down to Goldsmith filling in the gaps.

Big thanks to everyone involved for finally giving this score the album it deserves. I’ve wanted this for a long, long time and I’m already playing this to death. One of my all-time favorites.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2017 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

I just got an e-mail from a "friend", and this is what HE said about Damnation Alley:

"I listened to DA yesterday. Except for the quality of the sound, and maybe the last cut, DA was not that memorable."

WHAT A DICK! Honestly, I think he just said that to piss me off. He doesn't know quality when he hears it. This is a guy who thought the "music" from Gravity was good!

The entire SCORE is "memorable"!

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2017 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I hear the road to Hell is paved with "Gravity" discs. And AOL discs.

 
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