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Jan 9, 2018 - 12:54 PM
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Octoberman
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The Bryan Adams song was the actual end credits piece.
From an artistic and aesthetic point of view, it makes no sense to be absent (as Spymaster just pointed out).
From a financial point of view, what it really means is that someone (most likely in Adams' camp, but we can't be certain) didn't get enough cash dangled in front of their face.
The fact that the song is readily available elsewhere is some consolation, but the absence of the Jeff Lynne track is a concern too.
To the best of my memory, the version of "Wild Times" on the original album was a "pop" rerecording, different from the actual source cue.
If this new edition includes the piece as it appears in the film, then no harm done, and the previous version becomes just another curio in Lynne's recorded output. Nice, but not essential.
The music that plays out over the end credits... that's essential.
So, strictly speaking, Tyuan has a point.
I think it bears mentioning that Intrada is probably more pissed off about this state of affairs than anyone else here.
The fact that they were able to pull this off at all is magical.
It's Michael Kamen.
It's "Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves".
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Jan 9, 2018 - 1:03 PM
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davefg
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The Bryan Adams song was the actual end credits piece.
From an artistic and aesthetic point of view, it makes no sense to be absent (as Spymaster just pointed out).
From a financial point of view, what it really means is that someone (most likely in Adams' camp, but we can't be certain) didn't get enough cash dangled in front of their face.
The fact that the song is readily available elsewhere is some consolation, but the absence of the Jeff Lynne track is a concern too.
To the best of my memory, the version of "Wild Times" on the original album was a "pop" rerecording, different from the actual source cue.
If this new edition includes the piece as it appears in the film, then no harm done, and the previous version becomes just another curio in Lynne's recorded output. Nice, but not essential.
The music that plays out over the end credits... that's essential.
So, strictly speaking, Tyuan has a point.
I think it bears mentioning that Intrada is probably more pissed off about this state of affairs than anyone else here.
The fact that they were able to pull this off at all is magical.
It's Michael Kamen.
It's "Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves".
I agree with the sentiment expressed here, however when it comes down to it what would you prefer? This release without the song or nothing at all?
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Jan 9, 2018 - 2:02 PM
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SchiffyM
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Tyuan wants something that hasn't been made available to him, and if the lack of the songs is the dealbreaker for him, there's nothing more to say.
That said, I think he'd help himself in all ways by tempering his anger. Calling people assholes for reasoning we are not privy to isn't productive in any way. I really do think he should take it down a notch.
What confuses me, though, is that this is a problem only for people who absolutely must have everything in a single package. The two vocals not included have not been erased from the planet. They are very, very readily available.
Some people here see the glass as half full, and some as half empty. To me, though, the glass is filled to the brim, and there's another smaller glass off to the side, also available for me to drink from.
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Jan 9, 2018 - 2:26 PM
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Octoberman
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What confuses me, though, is that this is a problem only for people who absolutely must have everything in a single package. The two vocals not included have not been erased from the planet. They are very, very readily available.
True, it's confusing, but it also cannot be overlooked that the score fan who must have everything makes up a huge percentage of the consumer base to whom these very record labels cater.
I'm not an absolute completist, but I understand them.
They are simply the other side of the same coin.
I agree that Tyuan could have scaled back the ire a little, but making a quantifying judgement on someone else's passion can be a slippery slope.
Secondly, we are not certain just how readily available the original edition of "Wild Times" is.
That's why I was asking in one of my previous posts.
The obvious option is to seek out a used original edition.
In some cases that can be a prohibitively expensive option, as we all know.
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Tyuan wants something that hasn't been made available to him, and if the lack of the songs is the dealbreaker for him, there's nothing more to say.
That said, I think he'd help himself in all ways by tempering his anger. Calling people assholes for reasoning we are not privy to isn't productive in any way. I really do think he should take it down a notch.
What confuses me, though, is that this is a problem only for people who absolutely must have everything in a single package. The two vocals not included have not been erased from the planet. They are very, very readily available.
Some people here see the glass as half full, and some as half empty. To me, though, the glass is filled to the brim, and there's another smaller glass off to the side, also available for me to drink from.
It is puzzling to me that someone would pass on 85 minutes of previously unreleased music because it doesn't include two songs they already have sitting on their shelf. Sure it's not as convenient, but it tells me that a) this score is not that important to them and b) they really aren't part of our target demographic. Life is full of imperfections. Those that can accept it tend to have happier, less stressful lives.
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hey Schiff,
did you see my "Epistle to Schiffy"
poem on the other side?
check it out!
bruce
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