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 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   jpteacher568   (Member)

Well, there was a tough choice to decide whether to go with "Bazooka" or "Rocket launcher."


Technically, it is not a bazooka, nor a rocket launcher. It is a LAW, or Light Anti-tank Weapon. A bazooka is fired from the shoulder, and a rocket launcher is fired from the ground.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   jpteacher568   (Member)

Thank you all at Dragon's Domain for releasing GRIZZLY. More Ragland scores is sorely needed.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Roy Phillippe... You MUST tell us more! Please!

A hard job why, and how? Do you have any fun behind-the-scenes stories to share?


It had a number of editing changes. His 4 line sketches were a bit difficult to read at times
with a lot of words and timings over almost every note.
He did have an interesting orchestra with bass clarinets, bassoon and contra bassoon doubled by the string bases, celli, and low piano for the Grizzly scenes in 4 part harmony often in contrary motion. A few jokes were going around like calling it "Paws", "Jaws with claws", etc.
Bob was very nice guy. He was married to Martha Newman, Alfred's widow. I am friends with his brother.
All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.
Although i would see Bob socially this is the only project of his I worked on.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Well, there was a tough choice to decide whether to go with "Bazooka" or "Rocket launcher."


Technically, it is not a bazooka, nor a rocket launcher. It is a LAW, or Light Anti-tank Weapon. A bazooka is fired from the shoulder, and a rocket launcher is fired from the ground.


The description mentions rocket launchers while a cue name mentions a bazooka. I've never seen the movie so I don't know if they were both used, as well as the LAW shown in the photo. Maybe so if the titular character was such a mean ornery critter.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Roy Phillippe... You MUST tell us more! Please!

A hard job why, and how? Do you have any fun behind-the-scenes stories to share?


It had a number of editing changes. His 4 line sketches were a bit difficult to read at times
with a lot of words and timings over almost every note.
He did have an interesting orchestra with bass clarinets, bassoon and contra bassoon doubled by the string bases, celli, and low piano for the Grizzly scenes in 4 part harmony often in contrary motion. A few jokes were going around like calling it "Paws", "Jaws with claws", etc.
Bob was very nice guy. He was married to Martha Newman, Alfred's widow. I am friends with his brother.
All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.
Although i would see Bob socially this is the only project of his I worked on.


This is fascinating, thank you so much for sharing. Am I to understand that the four-line sketches left much room for, shall we say, interpretation on behalf of yourself and/or Jack Hayes? It seems big orchestral scores were not paramount in Ragland's career, so I wonder to what extent he was reliant on help - not trying to sully his work or anything, I'm just curious how different composers get these things done.

How did the London sessions go? Any drama or amusing stories to share? And how did you end up getting involved?
I was born in the 90's and by then scores like this were almost 100% extinct. I can only imagine the joy of hearing that main title for the first time, with the orchestra playing in the room. It's crazy to think, today, that music like this was once "business as usual".

That's terrible to hear about the '84 quake destroying all of Bob's personal copies. Good grief. I've only lived out here for just over two years now, and have only twice felt pretty minor tremors. I forget sometime how precarious things our lives are atop this fault line...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Thanks for the post Roy, that is indeed fascinating stuff. I guess this is the most complete release we'll get of this score, which is a shame because there is a lovely early cue in the film supporting the hiking scene of the two female campers. Will definitely pick this one up now!

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   Freejack   (Member)

Way to go Dragon's Domain!!!
This is my favorite release of the year. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.

That's terrible. I'm not trying to minimize that loss by asking, but Ford said that DD might do additional Ragland scores. Does that simply mean there are other tape sources? Or would they be vinyl transfers? From notes above, it sounds like GRIZZLY could be a combo of two different LP releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.

That's terrible. I'm not trying to minimize that loss by asking, but Ford said that DD might do additional Ragland scores. Does that simply mean there are other tape sources? Or would they be vinyl transfers? From notes above, it sounds like GRIZZLY could be a combo of two different LP releases.


I suspect that is the case, as with previous DD releases like BELSTONE FOX and WINDWALKER.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Well, PLAGUE DOGS is from original sources even though the announcement doesnt mention it, so I didn't want to assume anything. I thought the high-res download might indicate original tape sources, but WINDWALKER includes that too. Vinyl sources won't stop me from purchasing this one; just curious.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Roy Phillippe... You MUST tell us more! Please!

A hard job why, and how? Do you have any fun behind-the-scenes stories to share?


It had a number of editing changes. His 4 line sketches were a bit difficult to read at times
with a lot of words and timings over almost every note.
He did have an interesting orchestra with bass clarinets, bassoon and contra bassoon doubled by the string bases, celli, and low piano for the Grizzly scenes in 4 part harmony often in contrary motion. A few jokes were going around like calling it "Paws", "Jaws with claws", etc.
Bob was very nice guy. He was married to Martha Newman, Alfred's widow. I am friends with his brother.
All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.
Although i would see Bob socially this is the only project of his I worked on.


This is fascinating, thank you so much for sharing. Am I to understand that the four-line sketches left much room for, shall we say, interpretation on behalf of yourself and/or Jack Hayes? It seems big orchestral scores were not paramount in Ragland's career, so I wonder to what extent he was reliant on help - not trying to sully his work or anything, I'm just curious how different composers get these things done.

How did the London sessions go? Any drama or amusing stories to share? And how did you end up getting involved?
I was born in the 90's and by then scores like this were almost 100% extinct. I can only imagine the joy of hearing that main title for the first time, with the orchestra playing in the room. It's crazy to think, today, that music like this was once "business as usual".

That's terrible to hear about the '84 quake destroying all of Bob's personal copies. Good grief. I've only lived out here for just over two years now, and have only twice felt pretty minor tremors. I forget sometime how precarious things our lives are atop this fault line...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Roy Phillippe... You MUST tell us more! Please!

A hard job why, and how? Do you have any fun behind-the-scenes stories to share?


It had a number of editing changes. His 4 line sketches were a bit difficult to read at times
with a lot of words and timings over almost every note.
He did have an interesting orchestra with bass clarinets, bassoon and contra bassoon doubled by the string bases, celli, and low piano for the Grizzly scenes in 4 part harmony often in contrary motion. A few jokes were going around like calling it "Paws", "Jaws with claws", etc.
Bob was very nice guy. He was married to Martha Newman, Alfred's widow. I am friends with his brother.
All of his personal copies of his music, tapes, etc were lost in the LA 1984 earthquake. They were in a storage unit under the Santa Monica freeway which collapsed.
Although i would see Bob socially this is the only project of his I worked on.


This is fascinating, thank you so much for sharing. Am I to understand that the four-line sketches left much room for, shall we say, interpretation on behalf of yourself and/or Jack Hayes? It seems big orchestral scores were not paramount in Ragland's career, so I wonder to what extent he was reliant on help - not trying to sully his work or anything, I'm just curious how different composers get these things done.

How did the London sessions go? Any drama or amusing stories to share? And how did you end up getting involved?
I was born in the 90's and by then scores like this were almost 100% extinct. I can only imagine the joy of hearing that main title for the first time, with the orchestra playing in the room. It's crazy to think, today, that music like this was once "business as usual".

That's terrible to hear about the '84 quake destroying all of Bob's personal copies. Good grief. I've only lived out here for just over two years now, and have only twice felt pretty minor tremors. I forget sometime how precarious things our lives are atop this fault line...


Jack spent a lot of time with Bob putting together the instrumentation. Just because someone is a good composer doesn't mean they are also a good arranger/orchestrator. I've seen it many times over the years.
I was not at the sessions nor was Jack. We did everything in LA. I just proofread. It was a challenge going from minimalist sketches to fully orchestrated scores. I got involved because I worked with Jack over a long period of time. I met him in 1974 shortly after I moved to LA . He was a very nice man and I learned a lot from him.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

Fast sell out !!! For sure!!


What about releasing these if possible?

The Bermuda Depths (1978) - Maury Laws

Adventures of the Wilderness Family 1,2,3

Corvette Summer -Craig Safan

My Side of the Mountain - Wilfred Josephs

Six Pack - Charles Fox

You Light Up My Life (1977)- Joseph Brooks

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Jack spent a lot of time with Bob putting together the instrumentation. Just because someone is a good composer doesn't mean they are also a good arranger/orchestrator. I've seen it many times over the years.
I was not at the sessions nor was Jack. We did everything in LA. I just proofread. It was a challenge going from minimalist sketches to fully orchestrated scores. I got involved because I worked with Jack over a long period of time. I met him in 1974 shortly after I moved to LA . He was a very nice man and I learned a lot from him.


Thank you so such for sharing all of this, Roy. Fascinating to learn these things from a direct source who was in the direct thick of action during such a coveted era!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

GRIZZLY is expected to begin shipping the week of September 24th, 2018.

Is this running on schedule?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

GRIZZLY is expected to begin shipping the week of September 24th, 2018.

Is this running on schedule?


Given how many packages we hauled over to the post office Thursday and Friday I think we’re on schedule .

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Is this running on schedule?

Given how many packages we hauled over to the post office Thursday and Friday I think we’re on schedule .

Ford A. Thaxton


Sounds perfectly grizzly, old boy.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Marko   (Member)

Got my shipping notice Friday.


Really enjoying this, the bear cues are suspenseful and eerie. You can picture a much better film listening to the music.

Kudos to all involved with this release.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I'm spinning the CD right now, and the score has that wonderful, late '70s, B-movie flavor: a modest ensemble with creative orchestration, occasionally groovy, eerie synths providing the icing on the sonic cake, and for a vinyl transfer, it sounds pretty amazing. Bear hugs to the Dragon's Domain crew for getting this out there for us to enjoy.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

The CD arrived yesterday, and although I've been listening to the digital version provided , have loaded up the CD as well. It's an LP transfer ? Well it sounds great, no reason for any complaints here. To my aging ears it sounds just fine.

Wow, this is just a treat, ever since seeing the film in theaters this has been a score on my wish list and finally its here. Nice packaging, the liner notes are good , if brief. Colorful design, and really, the price can't be beat.

Thanks to everyone involved, what a nice surprise this is !

 
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