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most movies have inconsistencies the matrix had a bunch
even something like the untouchables movies have these check out nitpicker site for listings of many inconsistencies
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people make movies only if looking for inconsistencies will MOST people notice them...apes might have slightly more but dealing with sf flick how about untouchables every movie has their far share
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***SPOILERS FOR BURTON'S POTA AHEAD***One thing I was wondering about after seeing Burton's POTA... where did the horses come from? It's explained that the apes came from the test apes on the Oberon, and the humans came from the crew, but where would horses come from? Also, was there any pre-exising life on the planet? The planet evidently could support life. I suppose the apes, ater seizing control (how exactly could THAT happen, anyway? There must have been WAY more humans than test apes), might have just killed off all the other life forms. Also, I just couldn't buy parallel evolution of horses as an explanation. [This message has been edited by glenniebun (edited 28 August 2001).]
[This message has been edited by glenniebun (edited 28 August 2001).]
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lot of inconsistencies in movies because look good end of arlington road car chase
matrix shooting into building not hitting fishboure
untouchables connery shooting apes look good on horses
that is why they are there so either horses were on that huge space station (in back along with the gorillas wink wink) or they evolved independently on another planet like did on earth just go with the flow i could list dozens or errors nitpicks in burton's pota but all flicks have them sit back and munch the popcorn
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Concerning James Bond.At the big screen, Bond stories are often permutated.For instance, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and DR NO. At the beginning of DR NO, M asks for Bond's gun because it didn't work during his last mission... In fact, in the books, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE takes place before DR NO and you learn that it was M himself who offered the Beretta to Bond.
This weapon failed when Rosa Klebb tried to hit bond with her poisoned shoe. In the book, she succeeded. And Bond was sent at the hospital for 6 months (common ending in most of Bond Adventures...)
[This message has been edited by Laurent WATTEAU (edited 29 August 2001).]
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An oldie, but a goodie. I wanted to respond to a few of Thor's questions after I checked this out while reading the current Apes thread.
PLANET OF THE APES
* As previously mentioned, one must really question the integrity of the spaceships that seem to crash all over the place.
Well, I don't think the ship was supposed to crash. They didn't seem to be expecting a water landing, so it seems (going by the montage after the credits) the thrusters malfunctioned and spit the ship here and there until it crashed. Or, it was programmed to touch down exactly where it did, but it wasn't water back when the ship took off. Why they would want to land in New York City is a mystery though.
* What's up with the blue-flashing lightning effects? Is that supposed to indicate a ruined atmosphere?
I always wondered about that. Perhaps it's a leftover effect from the nuclear war.
1. Why do the Apes speak English?
Yeah, good question. Being this is New York, it should be Spanish.
2. Why are the apes so incredibly harsh to the humans if they are unaware of how humans treated them in the past?
Because the strong always abuse the weak. It's human nature and, I expect, simian nature by this time and point in their evolution.
3. Why do the apes not question their own past prior to "The Lawgiver" 1200 years ago?
Probably because, of the apes we see in this film, they don't care. Just like the majority of people ignore the inconsistancies in the bible.
4. And related to the above, where are the reversed bible quotes culled from? The Lawgiver?
Sure, The Lawgiver most likely adapted the bible for his own use.
My big issue is the set up of the film itself. Heston and crew get in a spaceship and go into deep space for "months." At not time during his last transmission does he expect to return to Earth. So far so good. But then...
1. Why did the ship turn around and go home? Did something alter the trajectory, causing it to circle back? And if they did expect to return, they should have known upon landing that they were on Earth. See below for more on this.
2. The astronauts spend a short time trying to figure out what planet and system they've made it to. So...NASA (or whomever) launched a ship with no destination in mind? "Here, just keep going until you land." The only realistic destination would be Alpha Centauri, but these guys throw out the guesses like they just crashed the USS Enterprise.
3. Did they bring along the female Stewart just to use her as breeding stock? Taylor mentions that, with her dead, they are the last of the line. Great, I wonder if she had any say in this?
Being that the original post was long, I want to skip to something I always thought about. It seems that many people are locked in the idea that the destruction of the earth in the 34th century is going to happen no matter what. And to address your questions about time, Thor, this answer covers both.
No matter how they found a way to get there, as soon as the three apes reached Earth in the 3rd film, the timeline was altered. Things humanity never knew have now been brought to light long before they were supposed to. So, nothing in the Apes history matters anymore, because Cornelius and Zira changed it all. So, from this point on, the events which lead to The Planet of the Apes do not have to happen at the years previously established. They set it all into motion much earlier.
It would be ironic if the virus which killed dogs and cats was actually brought to the 20th century by the apes themselves....
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bump this thread to the Non-Score forum
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Wonderful list there Thor. You sure picked through the movies with a fine tooth comb!
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Actually, Thor and the Ape films took turns grooming each other.
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Back to "Planet Of The Apes" I saw this when it came out...& the ending was a big surprise. I would think much harder to do these days, with all the movie sites & reviews with spoilers.
Yeah, it only happens once in a while these days. The press and public went out of their way to keep the ending of The Sixth Sense a secret too. But mostly, it's spoiler city today.
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