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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Miklos Rozsa: Quo Vadis?    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3       Last Post   Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 5:32 AM     By:   sammyp   (Member) There No hard feelings WB, you are loved! This after WHV announched same day & date releases for both Blu-ray and standard DVD. They are doing the same with 2 other titles I am looking forward to: AN AMERICAN IN PARIS & GIGI. I may be able to wait to 2009 for these 2, but not QUO VADIS! BTW the cover artwork is available: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51mE8pknU-L._SS500_.jpg    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 5:59 AM     By:   pp312   (Member) But do you really think us QUO VADIS fanatics can wait till Easter 2009 to buy this new restored version? That's interesting. I've never thought much of the film, though the 20 minutes or so I caught of a recent TV showing didn't seem as bad as I remembered. I've always wondered what fans liked about it. It's more sophisticated than Ten Commandments, of course (isn't everything?), and vastly more exciting than The Robe (isn't everything?), but compared to Ben-Hur or Spartacus seems to me rather crude, populist and intellectually unambitious. I don't want to dis a favourite film (except I just did ), but I am curious as to what virtues it has for you.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 6:22 AM     By:   soundtrakker   (Member) I am curious as to what virtues it has for you. Film score. Film score. Film score. The Holy Grail of film scores, lost and now unattainable, save for the movie itself. And Rozsa's masterpiece can be heard while viewing some of the most awesome visuals ever seen onscreen. Oh yes, and QUO VADIS even tells you how to get to heaven.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 6:43 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) QUO VADIS was the last of it's kind; shot in 1:33 & mono. All big epics after that were widescreen & stereo. I like it a lot, the arena scenes are amazing (& as someone said, "The Robe" is so boring). If the original music was found it would sound crap! The suite re-released on Dutton is just fantastic!    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 8:09 AM     By:   pp312   (Member) Oh yes, and QUO VADIS even tells you how to get to heaven. Indeed. I did watch the film right through once but must have missed that vital bit of information. Oh well, maybe in my next lifetime.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 8:46 AM     By:   Joe Caps   (Member) Quo VAdis was recorded during the period of changing over from recording on optical film to recording on magnetic tape stock. Turner has two sets of Quo Vadis music. First, is reel to reel tapes made from the optical tracks. This is Not the score but is hours of prerecords made for the film. Many different versions of the triumphal march made at different temp and lengths. Loada odf Ustinov doing different versions of his songs including a few not in the film. Then there is more dupe tracks of these for reverb and depth. If this sounds interesting, it's not. Turner has many reels of magenetic mono track for this film. the odd thing is that all these years, these tracks have Never been called from the vault and listened to. Not ever.    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 9:40 AM     By:   Doug Raynes   (Member) Quo VAdis was recorded during the period of changing over from recording on optical film to recording on magnetic tape stock. Turner has two sets of Quo Vadis music. First, is reel to reel tapes made from the optical tracks. This is Not the score but is hours of prerecords made for the film. Many different versions of the triumphal march made at different temp and lengths. Loada odf Ustinov doing different versions of his songs including a few not in the film. Then there is more dupe tracks of these for reverb and depth. If this sounds interesting, it's not. Turner has many reels of magenetic mono track for this film. the odd thing is that all these years, these tracks have Never been called from the vault and listened to. Not ever. This is what Lukas Kendall said in 2004: "There are Quo Vadis? tapes that appear in Turner's computerized inventory. These have been thoroughly investigated and consist of reels and reels of cues that are so degraded they sound like they were recorded in a '70s school auditorium from a loudspeaker at the other end. They sound like echo with the possibility of music underneath. They would make our On Dangerous Ground acetates CD seem like 5.1 surround. To say that they are mono is to imply that they actually sound like music. I have, in fact, heard comparable recordings: mono dubdowns of the Muir Mathieson U.K. recording of Knights of the Round Table. In that case we also had the three-track originals, but for some reason the studio retained mono mixdowns which sounded like someone put a speaker down in a room and a microphone in the other end and taped the reverb. There were drop-outs, and everything was clipped at the start and tail. The Quo Vadis? "secret masters" are the same thing and they are simply unlistenable and unusuable and anyone who thinks they are the answer is psychotic. There are also mag sweeteners and a few marches that Rozsa recorded in Culver City. NOTHING like the actual masters which were NOT recorded on magnetic film". Full post at: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=11588&forumID=1&archive=1    Posted:   Jul 28, 2008 - 9:57 AM     By:   John B. Archibald   (Member) There was also an in-house promo single of 'Fanfares from Quo Vadis?' that may never have been issued for public sale. I've never met anyone who actually HAS it. I had it, at one point at least. I noticed it in an ad in the pressbook for the 1964 reissue, something distributors could use in their theatres. So I ordered a copy. It was a 10" lp, in a white paper sleeve, with, as noted above, 6 fanfares from QUO VADIS on one side and 5 from IVANHOE on the other. It wasn't something you end up playing a lot. I ended up trading it to Myron Bronfeld in the late 70's for a reel-to-reel recording of the complete tracks to BEN-HUR. (I know, that sounds terribly one-sided. But, remember, there were no complete tracks to much of anything back then, especially BEN-HUR, and I never played this thing. And I really wanted the BEN-HUR tracks.) But I can attest to the fact that it did exist.    Posted:   Jul 29, 2008 - 12:55 AM     By:   pp312   (Member) The Quo Vadis? "secret masters" are the same thing and they are simply unlistenable and unusuable and anyone who thinks they are the answer is psychotic. Hmmm, sounds like a job for Tadlow-Man.    Posted:   Jul 29, 2008 - 7:22 AM     By:   Joe Caps   (Member) Several months ago, there was a poll on Joel McNeeleys website asking which score after North by Northwest should he record next. The vote was overwelmingly for Quo Vadis. Is McNeeley now recording this? Does anyone know? The fasinating and frustrating thing about this score over the years is- a - we can't hear it - it is dubbed too low. B - like El Cid, Rozsa wrote a lot of music that was cut from the film. C- the existing soundtrack LP has a LOT of source music and very little of the dramatic scoring.    Posted:   Jul 29, 2008 - 7:30 AM     By:   John B. Archibald   (Member) And D. Everybody keeps talking about it, and urging it be re-recorded, and no one ever does. Or, if they are, I haven't noticed anyone talking about it. Oh well...    Posted:   Jul 29, 2008 - 7:36 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) Several months ago, there was a poll on Joel McNeeleys website asking which score after North by Northwest should he record next. The vote was overwelmingly for Quo Vadis. Is McNeeley now recording this? Does anyone know? The fasinating and frustrating thing about this score over the years is- a - we can't hear it - it is dubbed too low. B - like El Cid, Rozsa wrote a lot of music that was cut from the film. C- the existing soundtrack LP has a LOT of source music and very little of the dramatic scoring. It wasn't 'till I bought Rozsa's re-recording that I realized what a great score this is. You'd never know it from seeing the film, where the music is mixed so low. I prefer it to "Ben-Hur".     General Discussion: Miklos Rozsa: Quo Vadis?    << < 1 2 3  >   Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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