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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5      General Discussion: Pirates of the caribbean 2    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3 4 5    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jul 7, 2006 - 9:41 PM     By:   Moonie   (Member) This negativity sparked my latest post. Geesh!! sd    Posted:   Jul 7, 2006 - 10:37 PM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) To me it isn't even a film score. It is pretty bad I agree. Plus a ton of it uses themes from the first movie which may or may not have been written by Klaus Badelt. So, I wonder just how many composers contributed to this one in total then, including those that contributed to the themes from the first film... 10...? 12...? Could it be THE single most generic, composing by committee score ever written? John    Posted:   Jul 7, 2006 - 11:24 PM     By:   scoringsessions   (Member) Supervising Music Editor . . . . . . . . .MELISSA MUIK Music Editor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .JULIE PEARCE Assistant Music Editor . . . . . .KATIE GREATHOUSE Additional Music by LORNE BALFE TOM GIRE NICK GLENNIE-SMITH HENRY JACKMAN TREVOR MORRIS JOHN SPONSLER GEOFF ZANELLI Featured Musician . . . . . . . . . . . .MARTIN TILLMAN Supervising Orchestrator . . . . . . . . .BRUCE FOWLER Orchestrations by WALT FOWLER RICK GIOVINAZZO KEN KUGLER SUZETTE MORIARTY Music Preparation . . . . . . . . . . . . . .BOOKER WHITE Score Recorded & Mixed by . . . .ALAN MEYERSON Additional Recording by . . . . . . .SLAMM ANDREWS JEFF BIGGERS AL CLAY On-Camera/Pre-Record Musicians . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .CRAIG EASTMAN JAMES S. LEVINE MICHAEL LEVINE FRANK MAROCCO Orchestra Conducted by . . . . . . . . . .PETE ANTHONY Orchestra Contractors . . . . . . . . . . . . . .SANDY DE CRESCENT PETER ROTTER Ambient Music Design . . . . . . . . . . . . .MEL WESSON Technical Music Assistants . .THOMAS BRODERICK LARRY MAH PETER OSO SNELL GREG VINES MATT WARD Score Recorded at . . . . . . . . .SONY SCORING STAGE, Los Angeles, CA Scoring Stage Crew . . . . . . . . . . .ADAM MICHALAK GREG LOSKORN MARK ESHELMAN BRYAN CLEMENTS Music Production Services . . . . . . .STEVEN KOFSKY Music Mixed at . . . . . . . . . .REMOTE CONTROL PRODUCTIONS Studio Coordinator . . . . . . . . . . .CZARINA RUSSELL Featured Vocalist . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .DELORES CLAY Choir Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .JENNY O’GRADY Choirs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .METRO VOICES THE CHOIR OF THE KING’S CONSORT Choir Conducted by . . . . . . . . . . . . . .ALISTER KING Choir Contractor . . . . . . . . . . . . .ISOBEL GRIFFITHS Choir Recorded by . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .GEOFF FOSTER Choir Recorded at . . . . .AIR LYNDHURST STUDIOS ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS Production Coordinator for Mr. Zimmer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .ANDREW ZACK “Two Hornpipes” Written by Skip Henderson    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 12:19 AM     By:   Cricket853   (Member) quote "Additional Music by LORNE BALFE TOM GIRE NICK GLENNIE-SMITH HENRY JACKMAN TREVOR MORRIS JOHN SPONSLER GEOFF ZANELLI" Now, that last name (Geoff Zanelli) would be totally unknown to me if it were not for the TV mini-series "Into the West". He gets full credit for that wonderfully, awesome score which may never see a commercial release. I don't know what portion of the new Pirates he did and I particularly don't care, but this guy should get some credit for what he composed for the mini-series. Beautifully scored, and right now can only be enjoyed by watching the DVD's. You who have not heard the score are really missing something, IMO.    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 12:30 AM     By:   Joe E.   (Member) POTC2 is only 9.99 on amazon right now. Earlier this week it was just $7.99 in the iTunes Music Store, though it's $9.99 now. Pricing error, or release day sale pricing? Who knows... I think if I were getting it I'd "have" to get the Best Buy version to have the bonus tracks, though I really wish they'd abandon vendor exclusives.    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 12:35 AM     By:   scoringsessions   (Member) this guy should get some credit for what he composed for the mini-series. Beautifully scored, and right now can only be enjoyed by watching the DVD's. You who have not heard the score are really missing something, IMO. Well, he got an Emmy nomination yesterday for his work on it, so that's certainly some credit, regardless if he wins or not.    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 12:35 AM     By:   Moonie   (Member) I think if I were getting it I'd "have" to get the Best Buy version to have the bonus tracks, though I really wish they'd abandon vendor exclusives. I ordered it from BB.com and no bonus cues so it must be a store only exclusive. I heard they are only 2 more mixes anyway. sd    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 1:23 AM     By:   Meh   (Member) To me it isn't even a film score. I don't really think it's an opinion of whether or not POTC 2 is a film score. It is a film score.    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 2:23 AM     By:   AndyDursin   (Member) Well I liked the music a whole lot better in the movie than on the album...at least there are a few motifs one could extract from this score, as opposed to most of the summer scores we've heard this year. I love the Sparrow theme and the central "Pirates" theme sounds more orchestral this time around -- overall I felt the score is over the top and bombastic, but works just fine in the movie. I also find the Badelt situation interesting. I think we can safely assume now that Zimmer wrote the original Pirate themes as Badelt receives no credit at all on this album -- outside of a co-composing credit with Zimmer on the techno remix bonus track. Certainly all the original themes are reprised here, and they're more effectively conveyed this time around as well with less synths on the whole.    Posted:   Jul 8, 2006 - 3:13 AM     By:   Cricket853   (Member) quote: "Well, he got an Emmy nomination yesterday for his work on it, so that's certainly some credit, regardless if he wins or not." SoundtrackNet Thanks for bringing this to my attention. A well-deserved nomination. Maybe this recognition (expecially if he wins) will spur a commercial release. Can only hope.    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 3:22 PM     By:   ahem   (Member) Interesting film.    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 4:25 PM     By:   bondo321   (Member) Shame greedy Hans had to take away a project from his protege becuase it made money and he's a greedy monopoliser. Karma is going to KILL Zimmer. Yadda yadda yadda, more criticism based on pure speculation. "Greedy Hans had to take away a project from his protege because... he's a greedy monopoliser"? Where do you come up with this crap? According to Badelt in several interviews, he stated that he didn't want to work on any of the Pirates sequels because he's not interested in scoring sequels period. I'm paraphrasing from memory, but I believe the quote went along the lines of "I've already scored a Pirate movie, why would I want to do another one?"    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 5:12 PM     By:   zippy   (Member) Where's John Addison's "Swashbuckler" ? Damn you Universal!!!    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 7:21 PM     By:   ryankeaveney   (Member) Let's all just say what people have been dancing around -- the original PIRATES was all based on Zimmer's uncredited themes, and that the second score is leaps ahead in terms of class and quality. Watching the movie I couldn't help but notice that Zimmer once again excels at what he does -- his music is slick, firmly in his personal style, and supportive of the picture. This is a big, hulking Bruckheimer entertainment machine, and no sound works better for that. Ryan    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 9:35 PM     By:   Ellen   (Member) Once again, as with the first movie, I have to report that the average filmgoers I saw it with especially appreciated the music. No, it's not great music (and I am no Zimmer/MV/whatevertheheckitisnow fan), but it seems to please the groundlings. BTW, I really can't understand the indifferent/lukewarm reviews this second PIRATES movie is getting. I saw it last night and found it a most worthy sequel, sticking very close to the winning formula of the first movie by bringing back almost all the characters, having them get endlessly separated, reunited, switching boats, tricking and lying to each other, and all that sort of fast-paced fun, and somehow they came up with 2 1/2 hours worth of pirate-story cliches not used in the first movie. (I thought they had used up everything in the first film but apparently not.)    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 9:42 PM     By:   bondo321   (Member) I'm surprised at the seemingly negative response by many critics to the cliffhanger ending. It's no surprise that POTC 3 is coming out, so who really expected the 2nd film to wrap up neatly? Its structure reminded me a bit of The Empire Strikes Back, with certain characters fates hanging in the balance. Hell, they do it every week on some TV shows.    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 9:45 PM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) I surprised at the seemingly negative response by many critics to the cliffhanger ending. It's no surprise that POTC 3 is coming out, so who really expected the 2nd film to wrap up neatly? To me, POTC2 was a complete re-tread (structurally) of The Matrix Reloaded. They knew a third (and final) installment was coming so they used the 2nd film simply to build to the third. I mean... am I missing something or... well... they needed a key to open a chest... they found the key... they opened the chest... they took the contents (no spoilers) out... the item was stolen... That, as far as I could tell, was the entire plot. The remaining 130 minutes was pure waffle and sillyness (not that there's anything wrong with waffle and sillyness but it's gotta have SOMETHING pulling it together) John    Posted:   Jul 9, 2006 - 10:58 PM     By:   bondo321   (Member) You're right, it does seem to be one big set-up for the sequel. But again, that's not very surprising, considering it's most likely the middle of a trilogy. I think this is one of those cases where it will be appreciated once all 3 are released. It has no beginning because it picks up where the last one left off, and it has no end because the whole story (POTC 2 and 3) is too long for a single movie.    Posted:   Jul 10, 2006 - 12:18 AM     By:   AndyDursin   (Member) Let's all just say what people have been dancing around -- the original PIRATES was all based on Zimmer's uncredited themes, and that the second score is leaps ahead in terms of class and quality. Exactly. There's no "Original Themes by Klaus Badelt" credit on the album or in the movie, so that's what I got out of it. Great summer fun as well, very much the kind of entertainment I hoped Superman was going to deliver.    Posted:   Jul 10, 2006 - 12:21 AM     By:   AndyDursin   (Member) I'm surprised at the seemingly negative response by many critics to the cliffhanger ending. It's no surprise that POTC 3 is coming out, so who really expected the 2nd film to wrap up neatly? Its structure reminded me a bit of The Empire Strikes Back, with certain characters fates hanging in the balance. Hell, they do it every week on some TV shows. The critics might be negative but audiences seem to love it -- a lot of online reaction is overwhelmingly positive and the crowd I was sitting in cheered madly at the very end.     General Discussion: Pirates of the caribbean 2    << < 1 2 3 4 5  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5

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