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A very happy new year indeed!
A jaw-dropping release! To have all those fluttering tongues screaming in my living room . . it's almost unbelievable, except as a wish fullfilment.
And I love the retro-cover. Like the first FSM cd's.
!Cente anne!
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Outstanding!
Is "The High and the Mighty" in the works from FSM?
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Outstanding!
Is "The High and the Mighty" in the works from FSM?
If only, if only. I think this was one of Tiomkin's best scores. Let's ask God if he'll ask John Wayne to call earth and alert his heirs to release it.
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Time is something of an unending, unyeilding band. Man's attempt to calibrate time is designed to make dough. Hence, credit card statements.
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What a thrilling release - hot on the heals of THE SILVER CHALICE. To finally have this released with such awesome(albeit mono) sound by FSM is a dream come true.
I actually saw these two epics as a double feature around 1961 in North Chicago, Illinois at the Park Theater .I was already a soundtrack album collector thanks to TEN COMMANDMENTS but neither of these 50s films' music had been put on LP . I have such affection for both these film epics especially LOP. I remember a few years after seeing it again in a theater(I first saw it as a double feature in 1959 with HELEN OF TROY) I had a Webcor(sp) reel to reel tape recorder and taped it off of TV and then later got a group of friends together to record my own kids version called LAND OF EGYPT on tape. I wonder if I still have it somewhere.
Thank you so much , Lukas , for bringing this master work of film music to a greater audience and to those of us who already love it.
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Jan 3, 2008 - 3:26 AM
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Thor
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Hell, Thor, all you would have to do before so eruditely asking, "Am I correct to assume that this was one of the titles in the Bernstein Box?" is- CHECK OUT THE TITLE IN THE BERNSTEIN BOX! Sweet Mother of God- Why do you care? You don't buy these things anyway? What a pill you can be...
I could do that, yes, but due to the upswing in activity on this board, I got my answer here almost just as quick. Furthermore, I was also curious about any OTHER previous recordings of this score that were out there (both suites and otherwise), so as to have something to compare this current FSM release with. Usually, the FSM advert takes cares of that bit, but not this time.
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Jan 3, 2008 - 6:12 AM
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Les Jepson
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Hell, Thor, all you would have to do before so eruditely asking, "Am I correct to assume that this was one of the titles in the Bernstein Box?" is- CHECK OUT THE TITLE IN THE BERNSTEIN BOX! Sweet Mother of God- Why do you care? You don't buy these things anyway? What a pill you can be...
I could do that, yes, but due to the upswing in activity on this board, I got my answer here almost just as quick. Furthermore, I was also curious about any OTHER previous recordings of this score that were out there (both suites and otherwise), so as to have something to compare this current FSM release with. Usually, the FSM advert takes cares of that bit, but not this time.
Thor, besides the Bernstein Box, Silva included some cues in their multi-CD Tiomkin issue two or three years ago. Without checking, I recall that the procession cue was a little shorter than the original, but was otherwise a walloping good re-recording -- digital stereo, too (I know sound quality is near the top for your choices).
Lukas, thanks a million for this. Ordered.
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Jan 3, 2008 - 8:06 AM
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Thor, besides the Bernstein Box, Silva included some cues in their multi-CD Tiomkin issue two or three years ago. Without checking, I recall that the procession cue was a little shorter than the original, but was otherwise a walloping good re-recording -- digital stereo, too (I know sound quality is near the top for your choices).
Thanks. For some reason, the Silva album is not listed at the soundtrackcollector site above. It does, however, include some other confusing titles. It lists two releases from Tsunami and something called Pantheon as LEGITIMATE releases and the Soundtrack Library thingie as bootleg. Plus the Bernstein box, obviously.
From all of these choices, I gather that the Bernstein recording is probably the way to go for me if I were to purchase this score. Too bad it's only available in the box itself.
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There were at least three bootlegs of Land of the Pharaohs in circulation. To be fair, these are allegedly legal in Europe due to different copyright laws, but they were obviously produced by someone ripping off the tracks whose opinion of mastering is that it is an Enhanced Interrogation Technique.
There is more to producing a soundtrack master than just lining up the cues in show order. In the case of Pharaohs there was a fair amount of unused music and a great number of overlays (for example in the Pharaoh's Procession and Sudanese Dance cues). Mr. Bootleg Guy has to take his best guess (if that). I, on the other hand, proudly endured the mildewed smell of 50-year-old paperwork and scores that are archived at Warner Bros., in the Warner Bros. Archives at USC, and in the Dimitri Tiomkin Collection at USC. That is the only way to find out the take choices that Tiomkin and his colleagues intended, and to place properly the unheard music. Also wisely stored at Warner Bros. is the timing notes that Tiomkin himself used to compose the music, with breakdowns to a third of a second. That lets us tell you, in the liner notes, what all the unreleased music was recorded for. I am very grateful to the staff and curators of these institutions (and in the case of WB, a functioning music clearance office constantly working on present-day movies, TV shows and new media) for being totally awesome in digging up all the paperwork that I psychotically request (and re-request when I missed something the first time).
So I don't think people here need much convincing, but you get a lot more than peace of mind when you buy the official CD and not the boot. Thanks, everyone, for your warm reception of this project.
Lukas
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Last summer when I was visiting LA, I tagged along with Lukas to a mastering session at Private Island Trax. That day Lukas and Michael McDonald were working on one of the big choral scenes for LAND OF THE PHARAOHS. The painstaking attention to detail was greatly impressive. I doubt most people have any idea how complex this process is -- and just how much difference all the work done by Lukas, Michael, Doug Schwartz and others really makes.
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Thanks, everyone, for your warm reception of this project.
Lukas
Except for Thor, of course, who is engaging in his typical and predictable monthly bout of "I'm different than the rest of you, look at me!" nonsense.
Too much time on his hands these days.
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Jan 3, 2008 - 12:13 PM
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Except for Thor, of course, who is engaging in his typical and predictable monthly bout of "I'm different than the rest of you, look at me!" nonsense.
Oh, shove it! Using the opportunity of this score release to ask what other releases have preceded it (which normally accompanies FSM announcements anyway) hardly constitutes "being different". In fact, I'm very pleased with all the information that has come since, and it has helped me greatly in making my choice, should I once decide to get this score. If no sufficient representation of the score had been released, the new FSM release would have been the best choice (even if I am not in their target audience). As it happens, though, there is a rerecording from Bernstein that probably is more up my alley.
There. Situation overview. Nothing more or less dramatic.
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For the record, (no pun intended), Tiomkin recorded a schmaltzy version of the main title theme on one of his movie-theme LP's, and that track (along with a few others from the same LP) made it onto a German anthology CD which I spotted by chance in a clearance bin a few years ago. I always had fond memories of the LP, mainly because it was the ONLY extant music I could enjoy from PHARAOAHS until Warner Brothers put the Main Title in their big anniversary box. So you can imagine how happy I am to be ordering this newest release from FSM.
Incidentally, the Bernstein version was a Godsend in its day, and considering how modest were his forces it's remarkable to me how NOT undernourished his version sounds. I'm sure I'll keep enjoying EB's version in the years to come, whenever I don't have time to hear the whole score, or if I'm in the mood for just a suite (and in stereo, at that).
Anyhow, once again, bravo, Lukas!
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