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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

Ron, if you are happy with the Harkit CD then fair enough, personally I find it sounds somewhat flat, and as I said, it is far from complete, so thanks, I will indeed continue to hope for my grail release of this score.

Peter, I am well aware this DVD may be disappointing, in which case it will have been a cheap way of getting what costs much more from other sources, but if it is as promised, I.e.: a proper DVD in widescreen, I will be a very happy camper. Time will tell.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2013 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mike: If it's a great copy of the movie, come back HERE and tell us, because I'll buy it!!!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2013 - 1:36 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Ron, if you are happy with the Harkit CD then fair enough, personally I find it sounds somewhat flat, and as I said, it is far from complete, so thanks, I will indeed continue to hope for my grail release of this score.

Peter, I am well aware this DVD may be disappointing, in which case it will have been a cheap way of getting what costs much more from other sources, but if it is as promised, I.e.: a proper DVD in widescreen, I will be a very happy camper. Time will tell.

Mike


And yet, I'm unconvinced that the album ... is far from complete.... Having known the album so well (as stated above: it was the album which drove me to see the film) I'm sure I would have spotted significant portions of music omitted.

Whatever, I'd love to see a proper release of the score. I haven't bothered with the Harkit release as I did not expect it to offer anything better than the Artemis release ... perhaps my mistake. Though looking at IMDb I don't think so ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071438/board/nest/19000773?ref_=tt_bd_2

As for the film: please, please a good quality w/s DVD and/or BD. I did own that rare VHS release many years ago but it has long since gone and I don't think the film has been aired in the UK for 20 or more years. From numerous memorable scenes, I truly love the sequence in which Patti (the gorgeous Deborah Raffin) hears that a small boat is coming into port after fearing that Robin (Joseph Bottoms) has been lost in the storm. The cinematography is fabulous ... and I can't recall whether it was scored or left music-free!

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2013 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

The sequence where Patti runs to meet Robin after that very bad storm is indeed scored, with a very different (more percussive) arrangement of Sail The Summer Winds. This cue is not on the album, neither is the complete soul searching cue at the end of the movie where Robin decides he has to finish the voyage for himself. Part of this is on the album but it's edited together with another cue. You will have to forgive me but I can't remember any other missing music off the top of my head, other than a short cue where Dove is almost hit by a huge vessel, but then it has been ages since I saw the film and it's very late here at the moment.

Another reason a complete and re-masterd CD of this score should be issued is that the film mix is much better than the album mix.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2013 - 11:32 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

MusicMad: Re: "...the gorgeous Deborah Raffin"

As of this Thursday she will have been gone a full year. She was so lovely and such a delight in "The Dove." Only 59. So sad.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

Well my Australian DVD of The Dove arrived today, and despite arriving in a sealed case with nicely printed insert and disc label, as suspected/predicted, it's a DVDR transfer of the old laserdisc, which is at least better than a transfer of the VHS tape.

The downside is that (obviously) it's a con, as it clearly states on the website and on the case that it is in widescreen (well the main and end titles are but that's it). The upside is that the laserdisc goes for silly money on ebay, and I now have a watchable copy of this hard to find film, and more importantly, I can listen to cues from Barry's superb score that were left off the LP.

So, sorry to report that it's not a proper DVD release (unlike the Australian DVD of the wonderful Love Among The Ruins), but then it's no real surprise.

If the tapes are not missing, and the labels are listening, please let's have a complete edition on CD.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Thanks for the report back, Mike.

In the absence of anthing better, I'll certainly pick up a copy.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Very odd. I posted something here about 5 minutes ago, but it's nowhere to be found. And, oddly, it lists me as the last member to post something:

47 - 2800 Nov 26, 2013 - 8:13 PM
By Ron Hardcastle - view


But that 8:13 PM Nov 26, 2013 comment isn't here.

What I wrote was that I had been able to stream "The Dove" a couple of times through Netflix and that as far as I could remember, it looked pretty good. But I came back to add that when I went to Netflix I found that "The Dove" was no longer available for streaming.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I can't believe I actually read 'stop the hero worship threads' on this site!!
That's exactly what this site is all about - our devotion to these great, (largely) unheralded artists (HEROES!!) and their work. DAMN, just keep posting about your love for these composers and their music - even Hans Zimmer. I don't have to agree with you but you have the right.


LOL, this thread has brought me some nice memories. I used to annoy the hell out of many people for my continuous and multiple Barry threads every week. I suppose Spymaster's "hero worshipping" comment is a result of that.
I have to agree that we should never try to hide our passion for this music. Being much younger and somewhat immature completely uninhibited my love for Barry's music, but I must say I do not regret any of it at all.
Anyway, sorry for my personal deviation here. Where were we?

Alex

 
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