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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Hawkins on Murder/Winter Kill/Babe
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2011 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Yeah, I remember when the TV Guide was 15 cents - I feel old...:-(

I remember when it used to have local listings too (not all that long ago) before it switched to the national table format.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2011 - 11:48 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

That TV Guide art of Stewart would have made a great cover for the Hawkins cd don't you think?

I vaguely remember the show as an 11 year old, CBS was always on in the living room at my house back then but my greatest fondness for it grew when WCBS in New York used to show it much later on "The Late Late Show". (On the dark walnut cabinet 25" Zenith color console of course. The one that weighed a ton with the fake drawer handles on the bottom) big grin

This was well before CBS also got into the late night talk show business. They showed movies after the late local news at 11.
I guess this was back in the Roland Smith days. (Anyone from NY remember him?)

Don't forget, Strother Martin played a returning character on the show as a sort of comedic foil to Stewart. That was worth watching it for alone. Strother Martin ruled.

I still have the Hawkins pilot on DVDR and watch it occasionally. Since this thread was revived I'll have to pop it in tonight.

It goes without saying how much I love the music. Once again (As he did with Barnaby Jones) Goldsmith creatively infused the series and it's aging lead character with a hip theme.

It's amazing when you read some of the comments on you tube when you review the old tv themes and somebody (other than the kooks) in the comments section (Not always the film score fanatics) says "I knew it was this show or that from another room because I recognized that theme music".

Or stuff like, "My Dad and I watched this show together every monday night back then and that theme brings back memories".


Strother Martin played R.J. Hawkins, who was Billy Jim's (James Stewart) cousin.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2011 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I guess this was back in the Roland Smith days. (Anyone from NY remember him?)

I remember him! Two Ls in his first name, though, right? Rolland Smith. As opposed to John Roland on channel 5.

(Sorry for this digression.)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

That TV Guide art of Stewart would have made a great cover for the Hawkins cd don't you think?

It would've been great. Maybe the clearance for rights wasn't possible.


I vaguely remember the show as an 11 year old, CBS was always on in the living room at my house back then but my greatest fondness for it grew when WCBS in New York used to show it much later on "The Late Late Show". (On the dark walnut cabinet 25" Zenith color console of course. The one that weighed a ton with the fake drawer handles on the bottom) big grin


Like this one?

http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy140/pacwarbuff/Me1978or1979.jpg

That's me at my grandparents' house, circa 1979; I'll let you "take in" the atmosphere. big grin



Oh, I took in the atmosphere. Yes I did Jim!

Love the plastic over the lampshade. big grin
My grandparents had it on all of their furniture back then. A lovely look.

No pumpkin orange colored carpeting though? What gives? big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Oh, I took in the atmosphere. Yes I did Jim!

Love the plastic over the lampshade. big grin
My grandparents had it on all of their furniture back then. A lovely look.

No pumpkin orange colored carpeting though? What gives? big grin


No, but they did have sculptured, goldenrod-colored carpeting in the spare bedroom.

Also note the plastic wrap on the "sectional", as they called it. By 1982, my dad finally convinced them to replace the plastic with actual fabric. big grin

With an environment like that, it's no wonder I turned out like I did.
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(Sorry for this digression.)

SchiffyM., when one is discussing "Hawkins", one is discussing the world, circa 1973-74. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Oh, I took in the atmosphere. Yes I did Jim!

Love the plastic over the lampshade. big grin
My grandparents had it on all of their furniture back then. A lovely look.

No pumpkin orange colored carpeting though? What gives? big grin


No, but they did have sculptured, goldenrod-colored carpeting in the spare bedroom.

Also note the plastic wrap on the "sectional", as they called it. By 1982, my dad finally convinced them to replace the plastic with actual fabric. big grin

With an environment like that, it's no wonder I turned out like I did.
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(Sorry for this digression.)

SchiffyM., when one is discussing "Hawkins", one is discussing the world, circa 1973-74. wink


And when one is discussing "Hawkins" and "the world" circa 1973-1974 one must also not fail to mention the drapes. Floor to ceiling. Everywhere! big grin

But Schiffy is correct.

It IS Rolland Smith with two "l's". He teamed with veteran Jim Jensen on the WCBS news for a while back then.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

SchiffyM., when one is discussing "Hawkins", one is discussing the world, circa 1973-74. wink

And when one is discussing "Hawkins" and "the world" circa 1973-1974 one must also not fail to mention the drapes. Floor to ceiling. Everywhere! big grin


Also note the child casket-sized cable box on top of the TV...I wonder what's on the Madison Square Garden channel now? big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

SchiffyM., when one is discussing "Hawkins", one is discussing the world, circa 1973-74. wink

And when one is discussing "Hawkins" and "the world" circa 1973-1974 one must also not fail to mention the drapes. Floor to ceiling. Everywhere! big grin


Also note the child casket-sized cable box on top of the TV...I wonder what's on the Madison Square Garden channel now? big grin



Probably reruns of the Knicks losing in the playoffs.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

So Mr. Phelps, what's your take on the Fielding Hawkins music on the Zigzag/Super Cops cd?

Fielding pulled out of his bag an assortment of some of his film work in those later episodes and I found it an interesting mix.

Nice (though not overused) nod to the original Goldsmith theme in a few of the cues.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2011 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

So Mr. Phelps, what's your take on the Fielding Hawkins music on the Zigzag/Super Cops cd?

Fielding pulled out of his bag an assortment of some of his film work in those later episodes and I found it an interesting mix.

Nice (though not overused) nod to the original Goldsmith theme in a few of the cues.


Your mentioning Zigzag--I caught it on its recent airing on Turner Classic Movies--has me giving Fielding's contributions to Hawkins another listen. I seem to recall a lot of source music, but I'm duly impressed with the suspense music. When Fielding uses Goldsmith's Hawkins theme, it sounds like Fielding himself composed it! This is also evident in the Mission: Impossible episodes Fielding scored when using Schifrin's Mission March. It never fails to amaze me how the likes of Fielding, Goldsmith, and Schifrin's individual voices emerge, even when covering another composer's work. You'd think that a by using another composer's theme, the score might sound redundant, but that's never the case with these guys.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2011 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I missed Zigzag on TCM because I only heard about it later in the night when I read your post.

How often does TCM show it? I should keep more up to date on their listings.

I must admit that other than the Six Million Dollar Man and some various tv scoring that he did during that period I was really unfamiliar with Oliver Nelson's work. I was very impressed with Zigzag, and it's sad that he died so young. So much more potential there down the road.

There's not a dull moment during Fielding's Hawkins material though. 27:15 of extra quality material on a set that already was quality. I know it's said here quite often, but man do we miss that type of scoring for television. I have a lot of his stuff on LP going back years and I need to revisit a lot of it and perhaps upgrade some more of it to cd's.

It's fantastic that in the last few years we are getting more and more of Fielding's work released for people to savor. He may not offer lot's of hummable themes but he's an interesting listen if you take the time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2011 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Despite the fact I heard Oliver Nelson in the 1970s with the SMDM theme, I didn't know it was the same man who was the Jazz composer I adored during my pre-internet "hipster" days listening to Jazz all the time. cool I became an Oliver Nelson fan through his Blues and the Abstract Truth Album (1961). It's a Who's Who of Hard Bop and Nelson acquits himself nicely with a beautiful tone on saxophone. It wasn't until I once again became interested in film and TV music that I became interested with Nelson the prolific TV composer. I went through a similar thing with Gil Mellé. I enjoy both composers' jazz and film and TV work. And to bring it all full circle, Jerry Fielding had a life as a big band leader and arranger...

 
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