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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: White Dog
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2010 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   malena   (Member)


This CD is a treasure! WHITE DOG complete and with crystal clear sound:
I have been dreaming about an edition like this since my childhood!
Thank you Lukas!!!!


p.s.: would be great to see other Paramount-Morricone score releases on FSM like ORCA, DAYS OF HEAVEN (reportedly there is enough music to fill 2CD), RED SONJA or FAT MAN & LITTLE BOY!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2010 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   rocroc12   (Member)

Oh yes,

In this case, i hope for a complete and remastered version of DAYS OF HEAVEN, the sound quality on the Legend CD is so bad, i hope the master tapes are in the Paramount vaults, and of corse ORCA, FAT MAN AND LITTLE BOY, RED SONJA,
DIABOLIK, WINDOWS

But Days of Heaven is the most beautyful score of all this and one of Morricones absolutely masterpieces, i hope FSM
can release this dream for every soundtrack collector

Bests

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2010 - 12:12 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

What's odd is, I don't even remember it's release announcement or theater play back in '81. Or reviews. This must have sank pretty fast.

I remember seeing the reviews for "White Dog" in England when the film was released there, and it was quite controversial, but I only just saw the film this evening, thanks to the Criterion DVD.

If anyone is curious, this DVD is a superb presentation, with a great documentary, and the movie packs a punch. Powerful stuff, and beautifully shot. The score is haunting, too, a sad and eerie counterpoint to what's going on in the head of the white dog. And that dog was beautiful, which makes the story all the more poignant. I am a dog owner myself, and a big softie, so parts were hard for me to watch, but Fuller challenges you to keep watching and, if you do, it is a very moving payoff.

Per the documentary, Paramount pretty much shelved the film after it was made because it was not the exploitation film they'd hoped for, and for some reason the movie was unfairly labeled racist. It most certainly is not. It opened briefly in a few U.S. art houses in the 1990s on the strength of its reputation in Europe, which is why it has not been widely seen Stateside until the 2008 Criterion DVD release. But it's a tremendous film. Very glad to finally catch up with this, and to have the score. Thanks, Lukas.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2010 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   The Projectionist   (Member)

What's odd is, I don't even remember it's release announcement or theater play back in '81. Or reviews. This must have sank pretty fast.

Technically, if you read the description of this CD, the movie was never released theatrically in America; only when Criterion issued it on DVD did North America get to see it for the first time.


Actually this movie was on VHS, thats how I saw it in the later half of the 80s, it also came on TV a couple of times in the early 90s.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

Received my disc yesterday. Enjoyed reading the well written notes. A quality product in this day and age of so much substandard horseshit flashing in everyones face wherever they turn.

Ya won't find stuff this good on the racks at WalMart.

Several years ago I read director Sam Fullers book "A Third Face". Everyone should read this book. His story of soldiers walking along the beach with bags and collecting the body parts of fellow soldiers blown to bits after a fierce WW2 battle is a part of war everyone should consider.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   The Projectionist   (Member)

I have a question about track 21 of this CD, its called "White Dog" just like track 20. Is this a typo or is it ment to be "White Dog #2" like track 18 "Attack #2" with the #2 at the end.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I have a question about track 21 of this CD, its called "White Dog" just like track 20. Is this a typo or is it ment to be "White Dog #2" like track 18 "Attack #2" with the #2 at the end.

Those were the titles from the studio paperwork -- just "White Dog," no number.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   The Projectionist   (Member)

I have a question about track 21 of this CD, its called "White Dog" just like track 20. Is this a typo or is it ment to be "White Dog #2" like track 18 "Attack #2" with the #2 at the end.

Those were the titles from the studio paperwork -- just "White Dog," no number.

Lukas


Ok, thanks for the clarification. I was just curious. Excellent release by the way!

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Okay, I couldn't resist any longer. Just ordered it. Can't really afford it, but who cares? Debt is just a bunch of numbers in a computer somewhere right?

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Okay, I couldn't resist any longer. Just ordered it. Can't really afford it, but who cares? Debt is just a bunch of numbers in a computer somewhere right?

Yes. That's what I tell myself, too (until that computer somewhere starts throwing up numbers from overload). This is a worthy purchase though. I was on the fence about it, then took the plunge.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Okay, I couldn't resist any longer. Just ordered it. Can't really afford it, but who cares? Debt is just a bunch of numbers in a computer somewhere right?

Yes. That's what I tell myself, too (until that computer somewhere starts throwing up numbers from overload). This is a worthy purchase though. I was on the fence about it, then took the plunge.


Sounds like a great way to look at my spare cash situation. I had $40 free until I bought 9 To 5 and A Walk with Love and Death from MovieMusic.com yesterday, and today I bought Eraser and Dragonslayer... I'm sure I'm $40 into the negatives now, lol.

I bought my copy of White Dog along with Cervantes a week ago. Just waiting on those to arrive now!

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2010 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

Just finished listening toWhite Dog, superb release, great sound, fantastic music by Morricone.
Thankyou Lukas, for all the great Morricone music you've recently given us, Guns For San Sebastian, Navajo Joe, Five Man Army and White Dog. Now if only you could do a complete For A Few Dollars More, that really would be the icing on the cake.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2010 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   nitzschemorricone   (Member)

Actually this movie was on VHS, thats how I saw it in the later half of the 80s, it also came on TV a couple of times in the early 90s.

If we're restricting the discussion to the U.S., that VHS would be a bootleg. It was never legitimately released on any home video format in the U.S. until the Criterion DVD. However, yes, it did show up on cable channels such as Encore in the '90s.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2010 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

Okay, I couldn't resist any longer. Just ordered it. Can't really afford it, but who cares? Debt is just a bunch of numbers in a computer somewhere right?

I see a lot of great film score recordings being released and have to take a pass on many due to finances. This score is one I ordered without pause as I've been hoping to hear it for quite awhile.

I really do like the good work FSM did on this disc. Nice package with a lot of good stills from the production and interesting notes about the problems encountered during production. In my opinion, everything about this disc is perfection. I think I'll sit outside and give it a spin later this evening.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2010 - 3:25 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Thank you so much Lukas and FSM. Listened to the CD a few times now and just as enthusiastic about the music as I was back in the 80's when I saw the movie. I got into the feeling that I would never hear about a decent quality recording of this masterwork, that I would be stuck with that bootleg recording for ever. Never believed that Paramount would open up as they have, and even if they did how many other people would care about this score, just another Morricone score from a little known film? I was wrong, and there are even people as enthusiastic about the score as me! But hearing the music in good sound is amazing and like hearing it for the first time almost. A dream release.
Dave

 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2010 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

Listened to the bonus tracks last night. It's best to listen to those aside the score and not at the same time I think. I really like the including of the track listing for the intended but never released LP. From the info on the insert sidebar my guess was right, it would have been on the Warner Brothers label and released not long after "The Heretic" (Exorcist 2), also composed by Ennio Morricone. Would have been a great LP.

smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2010 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Just finished listening toWhite Dog, superb release, great sound, fantastic music by Morricone.
Thankyou Lukas, for all the great Morricone music you've recently given us, Guns For San Sebastian, Navajo Joe, Five Man Army and White Dog. Now if only you could do a complete For A Few Dollars More, that really would be the icing on the cake.



Totally agree with you Chris regarding the EM releases by FSM. However, I think this release is VERY average Morricone, its not a score I would overly recommend, not one I would return to a lot. Im a huge EM fan but this is in the region of 'Hundra' and the like from that era (early 80s?), uninspring Morricone to my ears. Fantastic sound and package from FSM as always though.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2010 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

Just finished listening toWhite Dog, superb release, great sound, fantastic music by Morricone.
Thankyou Lukas, for all the great Morricone music you've recently given us, Guns For San Sebastian, Navajo Joe, Five Man Army and White Dog. Now if only you could do a complete For A Few Dollars More, that really would be the icing on the cake.



Totally agree with you Chris regarding the EM releases by FSM. However, I think this release is VERY average Morricone, its not a score I would overly recommend, not one I would return to a lot. Im a huge EM fan but this is in the region of 'Hundra' and the like from that era (early 80s?), uninspring Morricone to my ears. Fantastic sound and package from FSM as always though.


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2010 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

Hello all,

first post here, i'm glad I joined (pardon my anglais)

regarding the previous two posts.




Totally agree with you Chris regarding the EM releases by FSM. However, I think this release is VERY average Morricone, its not a score I would overly recommend, not one I would return to a lot. Im a huge EM fan but this is in the region of 'Hundra' and the like from that era (early 80s?), uninspring Morricone to my ears. Fantastic sound and package from FSM as always though.

vs.





I've been a Morricone fan for 2 decades now and from experience, I know now that you can take 2 Morricone fans, have them discuss their EM experience(s) and realize that they have ENTIRELY different musical tastes (typically, one's favorite scores or styles will be the other's least favorite).

I'm glad I've ordered the FSM disc even though I already know it's not one of my favorites (I really want to see the film though, I love Sam Fuller).
Now if you praise this score, more power to you, but if you think this is one of EM's best, I wonder what you (would) think of, say, The Thing, Gli Intoccabili, Spasmo, L'Incontro, Revolver, Svegliati E Uccidi, L'Avventuriero and approximately 60 other smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2010 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   morrifan   (Member)

But hearing the music in good sound is amazing and like hearing it for the first time almost. A dream release.
Dave


I agree. One of the best Morricone reissues ever. An the score is not even a personal favorite (although it's really good: not a weak track)

 
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