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 Posted:   Jan 14, 2011 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I'm sorry to be off-topic but let us know if it's true this rumor about the rerecording of Poledouris' CONAN THE DESTROYER and ADVENTURES OF CONAN by TADLOW.

Is there actually a rumor circulating to this effect or just fans' wishful thinking?

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2011 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Hermit   (Member)

Brian, I assume that "Davy Crockett" is a reference to Tadlow's brilliant rerecording of Tiomkin's THE ALAMO from last year.

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Of course! I should've realized that!

(For a moment I thought he was referring to Yul Brynner in Taras Bulba with his ponytail and cossack hat resembling a coonskin cap. wink )

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2011 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Was any of the non-score material we're talking about composed by Waxman? If so, then it would be a shame to miss out on it.

Yeah, I was wondering that too. The source track on Conan was very much appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2011 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

I remember a Zaporozhian Cossack drinking song or two just prior to Andrei's insult and cliff jump challenge. They were really fun and I hope that some of it makes it into the recording. Not necessary, though. I guess I'm in the "more is better" group, simply because I love Waxman and this is my all-time favorite score. Anything Tadow touches is gold, so I'll leave it to them. The "Alamo" recording is always on my player. Just can't get enough of it. I hated the Bremner "Lawrence", but love the Tadlow version. Same thing with "Exodus", so vastly superior to that dreadful sounding RCA recording from the early '60's. There's a nice recording Elmer Bernstein did of "Taras" cues with the Rundfunk Orchestra of Berlin in '95 (rare RCA Red Seal CD). I just can't wait to hear the missing bits I've noticed while viewing the DVD. Oddly, a blu-ray of the film has recently been released (1/12) by MGM in Australia. Wonder what the Tadlow cover artwork will be. I like the Brynner/Curtis clash on horseback art, but always thought that Elias Repin's "Letter to the Turkish Sultan" was a bit more classy. The film's titles appeared over a line drawing of this famous canvas. In fact, the scene was actually recreated and filmed for Bortko's 2009 version. I hope some of the Prague sessions appear on YouTube soon! Can't wait for this!

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 1:08 AM   
 By:   Juan Carlos García Cortés   (Member)

No complaints here if songs are excluded. All I want is the Score smile

The same here.

Best!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   bhur59   (Member)

war of the worlds or when worlds collide by leith stevens....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 2:42 AM   
 By:   rozsafan   (Member)

Skip The Songs- How about "The Fall Of The Roman Empire" for a future release by you or Prometheus?
Thanks for your wonderful work!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

No source on mine please.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   waxmanman35   (Member)

I remember a Zaporozhian Cossack drinking song or two just prior to Andrei's insult and cliff jump challenge. They were really fun and I hope that some of it makes it into the recording.

An orchestral cue segues into the a capella drinking song, so I'm curious how this will be done on the album. I'm guessing the orchestral cue will terminate rather abruptly.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


Don't need the source music.

Tadlow, don't hate me for asking this, but can we have a complete Quo Vadis next? What are the chances?

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I suppose (not that I'd ever recommend such a thing) the songs tend to be 'musical numbers' rather than backgound, so if you REALLY want them, you can nick them off the DVD yourselves.

I'm not bothered. Yul Brynner might have been, since he envisaged this great tribute to Cossack culture. But he hated the finished film anyway.

As long as Franz is fully represented, it doesn't matter.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2011 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I remember a Zaporozhian Cossack drinking song or two just prior to Andrei's insult and cliff jump challenge. They were really fun and I hope that some of it makes it into the recording.

An orchestral cue segues into the a capella drinking song, so I'm curious how this will be done on the album. I'm guessing the orchestral cue will terminate rather abruptly.


There's also some source music with prominent use of balalaika when the cossacks celebrate, which segues in and out with Waxman's music - but did he compose that source music as well? I certainly would not want anyone to imitate Yul Brynner singing but I did rather like the Russian church song.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2011 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   dryden   (Member)

and the wonderful manos hadjidakis for the 300 spartans greatest partition never published....only bootleg!!!!!

Great minds think alike! I was just thinking a few days ago that a 300 Spartans re-recording would be wonderful. Plus, as I've been saying for years, a re-recording of Herrmann's Beneath the Twelve Mile Reef is badly needed in light of the terrible WOW on the FSM release -- and, the TWELVE harps that Bernie used for some of the underwater cues would sound awesome if recorded well!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I liked the source music from the film, the Cossack drinking songs were very entertaining. I wouldn't mind it if they were included. However, given the logistics that you've described and the fact that I seem to be the only one who would miss them, I think the source music may not be worth the additional effort to record. I can live without them, and wouldn't have wanted them in the body of the score anyway.

That said, this is my favorite Franz Waxman score, so I am most excited to hear this new record!


What is of main interest to record in the Cossack celebration music which is scored by Waxman and a large orchestra indicated...so I think I will record that...plus the source cue The Thieves Market

Maybe not necessary are:
the Christmas carols arranged by Jack Halloran

the orthodox Prayer
"Vo Tzarstvie Tvoem"

plus the mostly unused songs written for Yul Brynner by Waxman and Mack David whch are:

"There Come a Time"
"Zaporazhtsi"
"He Died with his Boots On"
"I Lulee, Lulee"
"The Drinking Song"
and
"The Fox and the Hen"
a song written for Brynner to sing as he rides along with his two sons joining in he chorus: "He was a very, very , very beautiful fox .... she was a very, very, juicy hen ....poor little hen kept disappearing , right from under his eyes ... You can't have your hen and eat it 'specially if you are a fox"!!!!!

So with at least 6 songs composed it might well have been planned as TARAS BULBA: THE MUSICAL!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

If Quo Vadis is next, which I'm really hoping, I'd love if the concert suite was recorded and included in the bonuses. The one that features Hail Nero, Romanza, Arabesque, and Quo Vadis Dominae. The suite really is it's own beast!

Sorry Tadlow will not be doing Quo Vadis ....even though I have permission of EMI Msic publishers who own the music but the Rozsa estate do not want to give me access to the scores held at Syracuse University ... even though EMI has requested his access. So I am moving on to other things as life is too short.... unless there is another set of scores held elsewhere?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I remember a Zaporozhian Cossack drinking song or two just prior to Andrei's insult and cliff jump challenge. They were really fun and I hope that some of it makes it into the recording.

An orchestral cue segues into the a capella drinking song, so I'm curious how this will be done on the album. I'm guessing the orchestral cue will terminate rather abruptly.


Not really ... as we have recorded the score as Waxman wrote it ... rather than as it was hacked around by the music editor

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Not remembering the film very well, I have no opinion on James's question.

That said, I'm surprised at the automatic-seeming alacrity with which many people have responded. "We don't want source music." Curious. I think of so many favorite scores that would be unthinkable without the source music cues. BEN-HUR without the Parade of the Charioteers? PHANTOM MENACE without the equivalent? STAR WARS without the Cantina Band? CITIZEN KANE without the opera scene? THE EGYPTIAN without Horemheb's March? MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY without the Polynesian stuff? DECEPTION without the Cello Concerto?

What do folks have against source music?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

If Quo Vadis is next, which I'm really hoping, I'd love if the concert suite was recorded and included in the bonuses. The one that features Hail Nero, Romanza, Arabesque, and Quo Vadis Dominae. The suite really is it's own beast!

Sorry Tadlow will not be doing Quo Vadis ....even though I have permission of EMI Msic publishers who own the music but the Rozsa estate do not want to give me access to the scores held at Syracuse University ... even though EMI has requested his access. So I am moving on to other things as life is too short.... unless there is another set of scores held elsewhere?


That is a shame, but thank you for your efforts! I do look forward to whatever you may have coming!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

What do folks have against source music?

No problems with Source music - Diamonds are Forever - the expanded CD wouldn't of been the same without it.

Mild.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2011 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

If Quo Vadis is next, which I'm really hoping, I'd love if the concert suite was recorded and included in the bonuses. The one that features Hail Nero, Romanza, Arabesque, and Quo Vadis Dominae. The suite really is it's own beast!

Sorry Tadlow will not be doing Quo Vadis ....even though I have permission of EMI Msic publishers who own the music but the Rozsa estate do not want to give me access to the scores held at Syracuse University ... even though EMI has requested his access. So I am moving on to other things as life is too short.... unless there is another set of scores held elsewhere?



Wow! This is disappointing. Wonder why the Rozsa Estate won't cooperate as Tadlow's efforts on Sherlock Holmes and especially EL Cid were tremendous and served Rozsa' music extremely well.

 
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