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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Homecoming: A Christmas Story/Rascals and Robbers
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Goldsmith was famously cranky about a lot of his scores being issued on CD at all. I don't know that sharing a CD with Horner would have just added to that indignity, but I wouldn't put too much stock in it, regardless.

Wasn't it Goldsmith who claimed he wanted his entire catalogue on the Varese label, or was that Townson speaking vicariously?

So, it's not Horner Jerry would have had difficulty with, but FSM. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

I believe when FSM released Patton/The Flight of the Phoenix, Goldsnith was not happy about the pairing.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I believe when FSM released Patton/The Flight of the Phoenix, Goldsnith was not happy about the pairing.

I'm not at all surprised.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Next up: Gremlins/Matinee... On a 2-Disc Set with a shared front cover!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

Next up: Gremlins/Matinee... On a 2-Disc Set with a shared front cover!

Those are both by Jerry so he might have let that slide.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I was more interested in the Goldsmith half of the CD as opposed to the Horner half, but listening to the sound clips, Rascals & Robbers is prime early-80's Horner, akin to his "Alamo Jobe" score for Amazing Stories...i.e., one with little "new" material, yet with a vibrancy sadly lacking in most of his recent output. I was also initially disappointed to hear "mono" in relation to The Homecoming, but it's such an intimate, sparely-orchestrated score, it hardly makes a difference. I'll definitely pick this one up at some point.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   billiosis   (Member)

Spring time and Jerry. Nice.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I shall purchase it for the Jerry. The rest? MEH....

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Apparently, Goldsmith was no fan of Horner, especially when (reportedly) in an interview, Horner claimed he was not influenced by, was unfamiliar with and hadn't really heard of Jerry Goldsmith; this despite the fact that he had once dated Jerry's daughter (Carrie, I believe).

Reportedly, Horner, at Jerry's invitation, attended ST: TMP scoring sessions. Wish I could remember where I read this as this was Horner on the record.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2011 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Apparently, Goldsmith was no fan of Horner, especially when (reportedly) in an interview, Horner claimed he was not influenced by, was unfamiliar with and hadn't really heard of Jerry Goldsmith; this despite the fact that he had once dated Jerry's daughter (Carrie, I believe).

Reportedly, Horner, at Jerry's invitation, attended ST: TMP scoring sessions. Wish I could remember where I read this as this was Horner on the record.


Which is why ST:TWOK and maybe only 4 other scores the man did are worth a damn. He lied.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Apparently, Goldsmith was no fan of Horner, especially when (reportedly) in an interview, Horner claimed he was not influenced by, was unfamiliar with and hadn't really heard of Jerry Goldsmith; this despite the fact that he had once dated Jerry's daughter (Carrie, I believe).

He didn't date her, they were sort-of friends as she herself clarified in the biography excerpts from a while back.

Reportedly, Horner, at Jerry's invitation, attended ST: TMP scoring sessions. Wish I could remember where I read this as this was Horner on the record.

See reply below...

Which is why ST:TWOK and maybe only 4 other scores the man did are worth a damn. He lied.

Yeah he lied ON A FUCKING BLU-RAY INTERVIEW FEATURETTE on the "Wrath of Khan" Blu-ray release...right.

Perhaps you should, I don't know, think before you keep the bashing crap up? Or don't bother. Whatever.

Oh wait, here it is - I happened to have put it up a while back. I must've made this up:

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

And of course these would come today when my credit card has fraud charges and I had to shut the account down,

The same thing happened to me a couple of weeks back. Thankfully my bank identified the transactions as suspect and called me. I'm expecting my relacement card any day now. Feeling naked without it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini2   (Member)

Fine! Ordered!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

Oh look, a thread concerning a Horner release has descended into the same old arguments instead of talking about the release.

Really looking forward to getting this disc. Never heard of either title before but the samples for both sound great. Ordered.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)

Goldsmith Americana + Early Horner = FunĀ²

Ordered!
Thank you, FSM!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini2   (Member)

Oh look, a thread concerning a Horner release has descended into the same old arguments instead of talking about the release.

You are right. Early Horner is always interesting (but: I lost interest in his actual scores since over a decade...sad). Can't wait to hear them...

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Lukas, yet another question--will the 3000 limitation be firm? Will there be a possibility of pressing more if successful?

That's my question too. 3000 seems low for a pair of Goldsmith/Horner, but you never know...


I think if we sold out this week, I'd gather the courage to make more. But I think 3000 should be right... you know what I'd really like? For people to buy what they want and not have to worry about these silly numbers.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Lukas, yet another question--will the 3000 limitation be firm? Will there be a possibility of pressing more if successful?

That's my question too. 3000 seems low for a pair of Goldsmith/Horner, but you never know...


I think if we sold out this week, I'd gather the courage to make more. But I think 3000 should be right... you know what I'd really like? For people to buy what they want and not have to worry about these silly numbers.

Lukas


Hey--sounds good to me. Why then, Lukas, can you not just stop placing the quantity on the CDs? Much like Intrada once weighed themselves on doing again.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I think if quantities weren't indicated and instead people were simply told when low stock points are reached, that might be more effective for all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

I think if quantities weren't indicated and instead people were simply told when low stock points are reached, that might be more effective for all.

I agree. In FSM's case--and I mean this respectfully--there is absolutely no purpose in stating a quantity. As Lukas just stated, they print more when necessary; if it's a good seller and they need to keep their lights on, then they print more--and rightfully so. I say stop playing with these dumb numbers and concentrate your efforts on the music and packaging only.

 
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