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 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

I have about 1000 TDK 90s. Cost me a small fortune.



If you've the time or the patience, transfer them to CDR, master them as much or as little as you prefer. Easy with Audition or Cool Edit Pro. The clean up much better than LPs.


I keep meaning to start, William. You can imagine, recorded during that period - 77/78 to about 1990 - there are some gems on there. At one period in the early 80s I was hiring and recording two videos a night. Plus my LP collection is on there too. One day I'll dig the chest of tapes out and list the films. I used to record suites from the films, main titles, end titles, key music in the film, especially chunks with little or no dialogue.

I think its one of those things where if it was set up, and I became familiar with the best way to do it, I'd start rattling through them. Im put off by the volume!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I have MANY great memories of playing many great soundtrack cassettes, An American Tail, Sister Act, Somewhere in Time, and so many others. Great fun in my room just playing and listening to my scores. Then I started doing the CD thing in about 1992 or 1993. I still kept a few cassettes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I never bought any music on cassette, I only ever bought blanks for recording compilations and taping off TV.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

no self-respecting audiophile would buy a PRE-RECORDED cassette!
lp only
smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

no self-respecting audiophile would buy a PRE-RECORDED cassette!
lp only
smile


If you were a kid in the 80's, you definitely did! (although, to be fair, I mostly had recorded cassettes myself).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I'm glad I escaped the Pre-recorded cassette releases. My older brother had a lot of rock & metal albums on cassette (metallica, guns n' roses, sepultura); the first CD I bought was AC/DC Live at Donington and from that point on I'd just buy CD's. I did make a lot of playlist cassettes with my favorite tracks from those CD's; My parents bought an expensive Philips stereo set with a great CD player and tape recorder. I spend a lot of time sitting at that tape recorder making my own preferred tracklists. Later on I'd still use cassettes to make mixtapes from the lp's I bought.

Nowadays it's crazy how fast you can transfer mp3's and even edit tracks together.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

I'm remembering the TDK metal tapes I bought for I seem to recall close to $20 a pop!?!?! The cassette itself was some kind of heavy metal construction as well, damn they were heavy. They sounded pretty good but I think I ended up going with the Sony metals - much cheaper and you didn't risk getting tendonitis putting it in and taking it out of your car deck!

And how much time did I spend looking and looking for a track that lasted 1:43(for example) to end one side of a 90 minute tape....didn't want to have to wait forever before the player switched to side B! How times have changed...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2011 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

oops

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm remembering the TDK metal tapes I bought for I seem to recall close to $20 a pop!?!?! The cassette itself was some kind of heavy metal construction as well, damn they were heavy. They sounded pretty good but I think I ended up going with the Sony metals - much cheaper and you didn't risk getting tendonitis putting it in and taking it out of your car deck!

And how much time did I spend looking and looking for a track that lasted 1:43(for example) to end one side of a 90 minute tape....didn't want to have to wait forever before the player switched to side B! How times have changed...


Interestingly, my dad didn't care very much about the end of the tapes when he made his LP-to-MC recordings. So the abrupt endings became the "norm" for me. For example, his recording of 10CC's HOW DARE YOU? ends with "Don't Hang Up" (if I remember correctly) in the middle of the song.

So when I later got the full CD, I was kinda taken off-guard when the song continued PAST the end mark on the cassette. I had gotten so used to it. smile

When I made cassette copies myself, I always made sure to avoid that, though. Like you, I tried to squeeze in something at the end, but not so much that it ended abruptly. Made for some nervous moments sometimes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

I love those "down memory lane" threads. Stop me if I've told you this one before... Ah - too late -

I've got hundreds of cassettes of movie music taped direct from the TV. The first one opens with the End Titles (all 10 seconds of them!) of Franz Waxman's THE DEVIL DOLL. That was recorded on August 18, 1973. It still plays.

From then I started taping the Main Titles from all horror and SF movies, more as a souvenir of the film than for any other reason. I year or so later I started branching out and taped the Main and End Titles from ALL movies. I immediately scrubbed the stuff I didn't like, but still kept about 90% of it. That's why I've got hundreds of these cassettes to this day. It was a great way to learn how to distinguish the work of not only the biggies like Herrmann and Rozsa, but also the huge roster of talented composers working in TV - Robert Drasnin, Robert Prince, Billy Goldenberg, people like that.

It was always problematical knowing exactly when to switch on the cassette player if there was a pre-credits sequence - and I've got hundreds of "false starts" for the End Titles! I must have got my first VCR in about '78, and that solved the problem - I could tape the whole thing and record from the video tape, knowing exactly when to hit "play" and "pause". The first score I have which was done in that "professional" manner was Bernstein's THE TIN STAR.

During the '80s I was a bit of a nomad, so I stopped buying LPs for a while, but I made sure to carry around a box of my favourites, taped onto cassette. Whilst still "of no fixed abode" - and with very little cash - I used to pick up bargain bin score releases on cassette - the ones I recall offhand are the Gerhardt Herrmann compilation, Goldsmith's INNERSPACE, Vangelis' BLADE RUNNER and Williams' BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY.

By the way, a little off-topic - Last summer I was back "home" in Scotland, looking through crates of stuff which a great-aunt had left, and I found a cassette from 1966 on which the family had recorded a Christmas message for an uncle who lived in Australia. It never got sent, but I was amazed to hear that it still worked. The majority of the people on that tape passed away years ago, including my grandparents and my own father, so it was very.... strange... to hear them all talking away. Then suddenly I came on as a 5-year-old, talking about how well I was doing at school! Certainly the highest, piping voice I've ever heard. I can't quite put into words how I felt hearing that 45 years down the line.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

You've set me off now Graham smile
I remember taping the opening titles of The Reivers straight off the telly, while it was showing. I'd managed to explain to my family, several times, that they needed to be real quiet otherwise any sound they made would be picked up on my tape.
My dad was my biggest worry. No matter how many times I explained it, I didn't trust him to forget and blurt something out.
Sure enough, after the prologue, when the titles kick in, doesn't he just go and say "Oh, Burgess Meredith, I like him".
At the time, I had murder in my mind!!
Now he's gone, it's funny to hear him upsetting his teenage son without really being aware of it. It's funny how life moves on.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

You've set me off now Graham smile
I remember taping the opening titles of The Reivers straight off the telly, while it was showing. I'd managed to explain to my family, several times, that they needed to be real quiet otherwise any sound they made would be picked up on my tape.
My dad was my biggest worry. No matter how many times I explained it, I didn't trust him to forget and blurt something out.
Sure enough, after the prologue, when the titles kick in, doesn't he just go and say "Oh, Burgess Meredith, I like him".
At the time, I had murder in my mind!!
Now he's gone, it's funny to hear him upsetting his teenage son without really being aware of it. It's funny how life moves on.


Same here, I was recording Jason & The Argonauts off the telly with a radio/recorder sitting next to the speaker when my dad said something, you could hardly hear him, but me shouting, "dad I'm taping this!" came over loud & clear on the tape. And he's gone now, thinking about it, he put up with me with a lot of patience.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

no self-respecting audiophile would buy a PRE-RECORDED cassette!
lp only
smile


If you were a kid in the 80's, you definitely did! (although, to be fair, I mostly had recorded cassettes myself).


for soundtracks!
no way. they are too small to reproduce the artwork, an important factor to REAL soundtrack collectorssmile

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

i have a closet full of tape decks that only play and cant record (broken heads).
the manfacturers of these crappy products should rot in hell!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Yeah Kev and CinemaScope - You can hear my late dad yawning during the End Titles of DEVIL DOLL - a very audible "right, film's finished, off to bed!"

One little detail - that off-topic comment I made about the cassette from 1966 must be wrong. I don't think cassette decks were very widespread until the ยด70s, so that "high, piping voice" wasn't actually me as a 5-year-old, but more likely me as a very girly and immature 11-year-old!

I remember a reel-to-reel we had. I think each spool lasted ten or fifteen minutes. My very first TV-recording was done on that - sequences from Hammer's FANATIC (or DIE! DIE MY DARLING! in the USA). That was Friday, September 17th, 1971. The first "horror" film I was allowed to stay up to watch.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Since I was born in 1977, I never experienced cassettes in the 70's. Did they differ from the ones in the 80's in any way? Or were they basically the same?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   jamoase   (Member)

Hidden Freebie.....

These have been collecting dust in my minibarn forever, so maybe someone in this thread can give them a good home.

Cassette copies of:

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country by Cliff Eidelman
Star Wars: A New Hope by John Williams
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade by John Williams
and now for something completely different -
The Muppet Christman Carol - Various (as its songs from the movie)

So whoever wants 'em can have 'em. The first to reply and send their shipping details to jamoase(at)hotmail(.)com can have them.

Anywhere in the world.... now that Canada Post is sending mail again.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Since I was born in 1977, I never experienced cassettes in the 70's. Did they differ from the ones in the 80's in any way? Or were they basically the same?

Ohhhh some early 70's pre-recorded cassettes not only sounded awful, but came in these tight plastic one piece slipcovers...no hinged cases...where you'd pop the tape out and slide it back in. Artwork labels were stickers on the cases, so not even the most basic liner notes.

I still bought cassettes here and there until they went away, even though I made the switch to CD's years before, I'd pick up a budget cassette. And I LOVED going through the cut out bins at Camelot music, where at times there'd be 20 or 30 of those distinctive burgandy labeled Varese cassettes. Easy to find in the bins and those huge rows of red Varese tapes were cool on my shelves.

Oh and then when Varese switched from the black cassette shells with the silver labels to the white tape shells, and then later to the clear ones...oh, and yeah checking the tape was easier with the clear cases...if the actual tape was brown you knew it was standard tape, but if those spools were black - paydirt - they'd used chrome tape razz

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Since I was born in 1977, I never experienced cassettes in the 70's. Did they differ from the ones in the 80's in any way? Or were they basically the same?

Ohhhh some early 70's pre-recorded cassettes not only sounded awful, but came in these tight plastic one piece slipcovers...no hinged cases...where you'd pop the tape out and slide it back in. Artwork labels were stickers on the cases, so not even the most basic liner notes.



Yeah, my reply was going to be practically the same as MikeP's. In the 80's as sales of pre-recorded tapes began to approach and sometimes even surpass vinyl sales, the tapes started to have much better packaging. In addition to using a better grade of tape, the graphics became more elaborate. Accordion inserts with full lyrics, credits and photos became the norm.

Weirdly, I often found that the tape itself, despite the better grade, was frequently a much thinner average thickness and more prone to stretching and jamming. That seemed counter-productive to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2011 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Sean   (Member)

I vividly recall sitting unconscionably close to the set with my top-loading Panasonic while taping, among many others, Mancini's opening titles for "Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe?" Also -- Conti's end credit song for the Susan Anton drama, "Goldengirl." Oy.

cool

 
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