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 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

Kaplan in German : Vicar

Kaplan in Turkish : Tiger

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

It would be great if Vertigo were found!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

out of stock?! oh, it's not released yet. Beautiful inserts.
So am I the only one who tears up every time they get to "The Cliff" in the finale suite?

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   AlexCope   (Member)

The early draft is very long and has some very superfluous dialogue, which was all trimmed, plus a lot of banal dialogue that was replaced by brilliant dialogue.

I think I read that same draft when I was going through the Lehman collection at the Harry Ransom Center in UT Austin. Speaking of the superfluous dialogue, I was taken aback during the intro to the crop duster sequence when Thornhill talks to the man at the prairie crossing. The guy gives a long spiel about crop dusters that goes on entirely too long, and it all rightly gets trimmed out by the end, except for that one ominous off-hand remark about the crop duster that signals danger. There were also a few small penciled notes throughout that Lehman had scrawled, but what I enjoyed most were little check marks that he'd made next to lines of dialogue or bits of description that he enjoyed. I thought it was charming that he'd enjoyed his own writing enough to do that. Overall, holding that script in my hands was a damn near spiritual experience.

And the music is heavenly as well, in its own wickedly clever way.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

I'm not sure if it was the original title, but I do seem to recall that an earlier title was "In a Northwesterly Direction." As for the other answers - I do not know, but now my curiosity is fully piqued.

I'm very excited about this release, and can't wait to hear the original performance in such sterling quality.

Now, has anyone ever heard or seen sheet music for the Van Heusen/Cahn song "The Man on Lincoln's Nose?"


You have inadvertently got the correct title: The Man on Lincoln's Nose.




I've always thought that the original title was one of Hitchcock's "in" jokes---and that the early title was actually THE MAN IN LINCOLN'S NOSE.

I seem to recall reading that during the final chase, Hitchcock planned that Grant and Saint would momentarily hide out from Landau in the nostril of Lincoln's nose, and then Grant would suddenly have a sneezing fit.

Has anyone else ever read this anywhere and can confirm this early idea?

Doing it this way would have certainly created a comic moment to fit the style of the film, but it would also have somewhat destroyed the terrific suspense of the Mount Rushmore chase.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   cranston37   (Member)

Can anybody place "Rosalie" and "In the Still of the Night" in the movie?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Can anybody place "Rosalie" and "In the Still of the Night" in the movie?

they would appear between Intrada tracks "6. The Return/Two Dollars" and "7. The Elevator."
According to the Rhino tracklist:
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2191/North+By+Northwest

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Can anybody place "Rosalie" and "In the Still of the Night" in the movie?

Likely in the Plaza Hotel Oak Room sequence early in the film.

The Andre Previn "Fashion Show" piece (from DESIGNING WOMAN) is in the Saint-Grant
dining car meal sequence as I recall.

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I'm not going to buy this score again.

I'm not going to buy this score again.

I'm not going to buy this score again.




DAMMIT, I'm going to buy this score again!

[GROAN!]

[RESOLUTE SIGH]

Me, too.


...Nope, not me.

...But to those who do, enjoy mightily, West, South, East, North, and by Northwest; I'm waiting for the...

Next...

Release.

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I've always thought that the original title was one of Hitchcock's "in" jokes---and that the early title was actually THE MAN IN LINCOLN'S NOSE.

I seem to recall reading that during the final chase, Hitchcock planned that Grant and Saint would momentarily hide out from Landau in the nostril of Lincoln's nose, and then Grant would suddenly have a sneezing fit.

Has anyone else ever read this anywhere and can confirm this early idea?


Both original titles are right, manderley.

'It took a long time to settle on the title “North by Nortwest,” a phrase that comes from “Hamlet,” and which Hitch manages to reference by putting Thornhill and the Professor on a Northwest Airlines flight. Working titles included “The Man in Lincoln’s Nose,” “The Man on Lincoln’s Nose,” and “In a Northwesterly Direction.” '

From http://hitchcockandme.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/alfred-hitchcock-travels-north-by-northwest/

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

Thrilling! Mine is ordered!

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   Senojanaidni   (Member)

A great day, after meeting for the first time PHILIP GLASS in my town now this, thanks Intrada.

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I actually am fond of the original recording and its nuances. The Rhino cd was greatly welcomed but I felt that the damaged tapes on the rousing fandango sequences unfortunately ruined my listening experience on that cd. While The Joel McNeely easily is the best re-recording and a thrilling release on it own; supported by a terrific performance of the orchestra. I had often wondered when the the DVD with the isolated channel sported an all new clean sounding cues including the fandango sequences; I was hopeful that they would at last issue the album from that source.

After the dvd and its blu-ray counterpart (which looks stunning in the latter format) I was expecting this turn out eventually. It finally has happened. So kudos for Intrada for resurrecting this all time classic Herrmann.

My question is did the same source tapes were used as the ones on the dvd/blu ray or are these entirely newly discovered master tapes? And if so why did it take so long to get this out on CD whereas I vaguely remember the good sources used on the dvd isolated were found roughly a a year after the old Rhino cd.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

I wish this release was a complete OBSESSION, but I'll probably pick it up (I already have the Rhino and the McNeely).

 
 Posted:   Aug 6, 2012 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Kaplan in German : Vicar

Kaplan in Turkish : Tiger


Kaplan in Hollywood : Sol smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   gyorgyL   (Member)

"Previous release on Rhino label was spectacular album, albeit several major set pieces (including main title & climactic Mount Rushmore sequence) were transferred from damaged elements..."
This new release have the same damaged elements ...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Once I heard about the damaged tracks on the previous release, I decided to wait. It was a good idea after all. Ordered with Lost in Space '98.

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

"Previous release on Rhino label was spectacular album, albeit several major set pieces (including main title & climactic Mount Rushmore sequence) were transferred from damaged elements..."
This new release have the same damaged elements ...


You claim Intrada is lying?

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

"Previous release on Rhino label was spectacular album, albeit several major set pieces (including main title & climactic Mount Rushmore sequence) were transferred from damaged elements..."
This new release have the same damaged elements ...


The blu-ray and dvd show no sign of the damaged elements which means that the same high quality source is being used by Intrada or unless they have the new technology to doctor the damaged elements and present them as new...???

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 1:47 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


The Mags for NBNW are the mags.
I heard that for the Rhino, they were not transferred very well.


Finding Vertigo - well.

Before the Vertigo restoration(long before) I was head of Pioeer Special Editions laserdisc.

We were preparing a proposal to license titles from Universal.

On the docket was the Hitchcock film Vertigo, Man Who Knew Too much.
ONe of the things I wanted to do was a new stereo track for both films.

Todo so would require stereo music tracks.

One problem - those films, once paramount pictures, were now conttrolled by Universal.
Jowever, not all elements were turned over to them. The music mags were still in storage at Paramount.

I spent an afternoon marking what was on each mag.

Also found that much, but not all of Twouble with Harry was still there, in stereo.

Most of Man Who Knew Too Much was there in stereo.

Vertigo - there was tons of it.

It looked like all of the score was there in mono.
But these were only back ups for the stereo mags.
Each stereo mag was marked as to what cues were on it.

I wrote all of the numbers down.

This list was then read on the phone to Chris Justed wwho was thenin charge of the Herrmann archive at UC Santa Barbara.

Four cues were missing. However, these four cues were already availabe in stereo on the Mercury CD !!!! No problem.

I was very surprised when, much later, Varese does an expanded soundtrack but only partially in stereo, along with some notes that say only the Vienna sessions were recorded in
stereo. Hmmmmm

 
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