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 Posted:   Dec 13, 2012 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Thank you sir smile Great cue!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2012 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

What a cool (and interesting) CD!

For some reason, the music in this film - with the EXCEPTION of "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" - isn't as evident when I actually watch it. In the first two, it seems to be front and center but in this film, at least for me, it's more in the background. I don't claim to understand it; it's just my observation.

I enjoyed the nod to Tristan und Isolde, though I'm baffled why people call it a sex scene - they lay down, start to strip, and that's it. It's hardly a sex scene!

There is a slight "Been there, done that" vibe to some of the tracks but it's only slight and ONLY because Varese just released Die Hard 2 and I'd been listening to it for a few weeks.

"Ode to Johnny" is kinda awesome! I'd love to see a fan put together a Die Hard trailer using pieces of this cue.

All in all, great job!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2012 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Ryan24   (Member)

I just got my copy last night I love the music!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2012 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I was re-reading the Michael Kamen interview in an issue of FSM from '95... the interview notes that it was done in April, Kamen was recording in Seattle, still rewriting cues and the film was set for release on May 19. Interestingly, Kamen mentions that he was already incorporating the main theme from Brahm's Symphony #1 and so I wonder if any of this music was actually recorded, since it was so close to the release date. If so, it sure didn't survive, it seems, or maybe that theme is buried in some of the cues on this great expanded album from La-La Land and I just can't hear it?

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2012 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Cool. I wish Beltrami would follow the Die Hard score tradition and base his scores on famous classical pieces as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2012 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Loving this new release. Have one question: was the film version of Surfing in the Aqueduct (not on the album) tracked from the first Die Hard movie? It uses the cue where the Terrorists send guided missiles toward the tank. I know that Kamen re-recorded a lot of the material for DH3, but the film version of that scene sounds like it was from a completely different session. Like the 1988 DH1 sessions.

Did DH3 reuse any of the 1988 sessions from the first movie or am I just hearing things.

Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Can someone do a track-by-track analysis, or list which cues were unused in the final film? It seems to be a mess... Where do Regret, Escape, and No Rush go?

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Such a bizarre bonus track listing, much like the Varese Die Hard 2 set.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Can someone do a track-by-track analysis, or list which cues were unused in the final film? It seems to be a mess... Where do Regret, Escape, and No Rush go?

Gladly. As soon as I get my copy!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   Sketchkid   (Member)

Other than rejected scores, has there ever been so much unused material!? This is great stuff, I love that the album is it's own beast. The inclusion of the opening song is icing on the cake.

On a personal note, I believe the original album was the 2nd soundtrack I bought (Clear and Present Danger the first) - and it ended up being one of the most reviled soundtrack releases...lol. (just going off amazon reviews) Now... 17 yrs later I've come full circle! Thanks LLL, one of my fav of the year! (if you want to tackle a new Clear and Present Danger release that would be unbelievable)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

Can someone do a track-by-track analysis, or list which cues were unused in the final film? It seems to be a mess... Where do Regret, Escape, and No Rush go?

Here you go, I think that's about it:

1. Summer in the City
2. Main Title (unused)
3. Goodbye Bonwits
4. John and Zeus
5. Taxi
6. Neat Bomb
8. 72nd Street Phone
9. The Subway (Part 1) ("Taxi Chase" 1st half alternate)
10. Taxi Chase
11. Wall Street Station
12. Take A-nother Train
13. The Subway (Part 2) ("Take A-nother Train" alternate, unused)
14. Feds ("Rings a Bell" 1st half rescore)
15. Rings a Bell
16. Infiltration
17. Ode to Johnny (unused)
18. Bank Invasion ("Ode to Johnny" rescore)
19. Back to Wall Street (unused, music for the gallon riddle, starts with McClane & Zeus running through the park)
20. Fake Cops (unused, starts with the cut from the gallon scene to the baddies loading the gold)
21. The Federal Reserve
22. Bank Elevator
23. Gold Room Aftermath
24. Panic (unused)
25. Papaya King (alternate of "Santa Claus" & "Yankee Stadium / School and Tunnel", starts approx. with McClane getting on the truck and driving into the Aqueduct)
26. Aqueduct (alternate of "School and Tunnel" 2nd half)
27. Santa Claus
28. Yankee Stadium / School and Tunnel
29. Refrigerator Bomb
30. Surfing in the Aqueduct
31. Ticking Refrigerator
32. Mercedes Chase / School Assembly
33. Aftermath / Waiting and Falling
34. Hooking the Boat
35. Bunny and Fire Drill
36. Running in the Halls
37. Bomb Goes Into Hold
38. Regret (unused)
39. John Makes It Mad
40. Escape ("John Makes It Mad" alternate)
41. Holly / Celebration
42. No Rush (unused)
43. Oh, Canada!
44. Johnny Comes Marching Home

Bonus:
45. Hooking the Boat (alternate)
46. On the Freighter / John Makes It Mad (alternate)
47. The Subway (Part 1) (alt. segment)
48. The Subway (Part 2) (alt. segment)
49. Somebody Had Fun (wild snare) (replaces middle section of "Infiltration" but doesn't seem to be a rescore)
50. Johnny Comes Marching Home (wild vamps)

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Interesting info, thanks for posting this, Mink. Where were you gathering your info from? It seems perhaps that the LLL edition went for a sequencing of where certain cues originally were slated to appear, such as "Papaya King".

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Thank you so much, Mink!! That's exactly what I was looking for smile

What are Waltz of the Bankers, and Gold Vault?

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Thank you so much, Mink!! That's exactly what I was looking for smile

What are Waltz of the Bankers, and Gold Vault?


Those are album versions (from the original album issue) of separate cues that were merged together into these two tracks... example is that "Aqueduct" is the first half of "Waltz of the Bankers".

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


17. Ode to Johnny (unused)
18. Bank Invasion ("Ode to Johnny" rescore)
19. Back to Wall Street (unused, music for the gallon riddle, starts with McClane & Zeus running through the park)


This is wrong. Ode To Johnny is 7m1, and Back To Wall Street is 7m2 and 7m3 together in one track. Bank Invasion is the end of Reel 6.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Gaaaahh! I want this CD now!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Thanks for the clarification guys. I'm rewatching the film right now, and the score is definitely all over the place. Did Kamen actually score "Taxi Chase" as used in the film? It sounds nothing like the rest of the score

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)


17. Ode to Johnny (unused)
18. Bank Invasion ("Ode to Johnny" rescore)
19. Back to Wall Street (unused, music for the gallon riddle, starts with McClane & Zeus running through the park)


This is wrong. Ode To Johnny is 7m1, and Back To Wall Street is 7m2 and 7m3 together in one track. Bank Invasion is the end of Reel 6.


why don't you just tell us the slate numbers then so the rest of us doesn't have to guess?

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

I'm really enjoying this release, mostly the new ideas that Kamen tried to bring to this franchise installment. They seem more prevalent earlier in the score. Later on, however, more and more of the music becomes derivative, where it sounds like Kamen was forced to parrot temp tracks from the earlier DIE HARD movies. I wish more of the score was as innovative in spirit as "Ode to Johnny". Still, very glad to have this. A major holy grail release for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I honestly never paid much attention to the Die Hard scores until this release. I loved the movies and I knew the music fit them, but they never really stuck out until I heard them on CD. As much as I like 1 and 2, Vengeance seems to be the ultimate culmination of all the major thematic ideas. Not to mention the fact that I can't get "Johnny Comes Marching Home" out of my head now big grin

 
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