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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Show premiers tonight. From the sound of the themes it sounds like this'll be my favorite McCreary score since Human Target. big grin



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

Looking forward to it, particularly to actually hear the theme. I am hoping it isn't this (same music is used on the AoS website, which may be where it was ripped from) as its underwhelming but does have a Marvel sound to it (though not really a Bear sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2fewn6Umgc

For comparison here are a bunch of the other main titles that Bear has done

The Cape - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_XCfuBRws
Human Target - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_xFMyhBYx8
Da Vinci's Demons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f04U-pu4DEQ
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30cB-Wb_O-g
Defiance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrAOuDsq4hI
BSG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3YVq0Hvd8k
Caprica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BYxWWQKFs8

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Show premiers tonight. From the sound of the themes it sounds like this'll be my favorite McCreary score since Human Target. big grin

I saw the video and thought, "This is what Human Target Season 2 could have been." Hopefully it gets a nice, multi-disc release like Human Target. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Someone told me this is going up against the season premier of NCIS (I don't watch the show). It will surely be crushed.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I'll be there on Friday (it's been fast-tracked for the UK so it launches in these parts only a few days after the US). smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I'm hopeful that this will top Davinci's Demons, which is my favorite Bear score to date. The snippet I heard of the theme at Comic-Con was awesome.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

While these themes are nice, television themes, (the ones that have them nowadays) just lack the dynamics of the 60's,70's and 80's. Those themes were instantly recognizable, hummable and memorable. And before I get a lot of hate, I have all of Bears BSG soundtracks!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Joe Sikoryak   (Member)

While these themes are nice, television themes, (the ones that have them nowadays) just lack the dynamics of the 60's,70's and 80's. Those themes were instantly recognizable, hummable and memorable. And before I get a lot of hate, I have all of Bears BSG soundtracks!

I agree the dynamics for TV scores has become more muted---but that ain't the composer's fault. In the 60s and 70s, the music did a lot of heavy lifting for the drama, which often felt lacking without music. Look at all of those stingers in Star Trek TOS, for instance.

But just as importantly, the sound is better today (we didn't have stereo broadcasts until mid 80s) giving room for more sound design, and like the movies, producers make room for sound effects by taking it out of the music's presence.

And culturally, lots of people don't "buy" big musical scores---many people call prominent music "hokey" and "corny". Sad but true---so I wouldn't lay this at the musician's feet. They're doing the best the can with a bad situation.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

While these themes are nice, television themes, (the ones that have them nowadays) just lack the dynamics of the 60's,70's and 80's. Those themes were instantly recognizable, hummable and memorable. And before I get a lot of hate, I have all of Bears BSG soundtracks!

I agree the dynamics for TV scores has become more muted---but that ain't the composer's fault. In the 60s and 70s, the music did a lot of heavy lifting for the drama, which often felt lacking without music. Look at all of those stingers in Star Trek TOS, for instance.

But just as importantly, the sound is better today (we didn't have stereo broadcasts until mid 80s) giving room for more sound design, and like the movies, producers make room for sound effects by taking it out of the music's presence.

And culturally, lots of people don't "buy" big musical scores---many people call prominent music "hokey" and "corny". Sad but true---so I wouldn't lay this at the musician's feet. They're doing the best the can with a bad situation.


Agreed. I wasn't putting it at the feet of Bear. I think he is doing the best of what he has to work with. My comment was a general observation. Actually, hearing his excitement over this score has me a bit excited too.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Bear is really overrated. Aside of this, this show most likely won't last long.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Bear is really overrated. Aside of this, this show most likely won't last long.

While one can't help but admire your cynicism, would you care to back up either of your statements with… I don't know… anything?

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)

I watched the show and really enjoyed it. I liked what I heard of the music...but I was engrossed in the story and kind of forgot to listen for the music much. I will probably watch the first episode again so I can try to pick up more of the music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Bear is really overrated. Aside of this, this show most likely won't last long.

really?

I guess that Emmy he got last week from his peers was just mistake on their part....

:-)

The man is very talented and after watching him grow as a composer over nearly ten years I will say there is a lot of great work ahead of him.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I missed most of the music as well. I enjoyed the pilot. Script could be better, but it was "fun". I'll give it a chance to develop.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

The score is mixed pretty loudly in the pilot. It's just not all that memorable and I don't care for the use of contemporary elements (like the techno beat). Bear's a very talented guy so I'm sure that as the show evolves, the music will as well.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

The score is mixed pretty loudly in the pilot. It's just not all that memorable and I don't care for the use of contemporary elements (like the techno beat). Bear's a very talented guy so I'm sure that as the show evolves, the music will as well.

Yeah, I don't know how people are missing the music. I like the main theme but haven't heard anything else that is particularly interesting yet.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Bear is really overrated. Aside of this, this show most likely won't last long.

really?

I guess that Emmy he got last week from his peers was just mistake on their part....

:-)

The man is very talented and after watching him grow as a composer over nearly ten years I will say there is a lot of great work ahead of him.


Ford A. Thaxton


Awards shows.. oh awards shows. Peers patting each other on the back giving each other awards. Award shows mean nothing. I guess you also thought Gustavo Santaolalla deserved to win for Brokeback Mountain? Didn't think so.

I'm not saying Bear isn't a good composer, he is. But he isn't a great composer. Not yet, anyway. And he gloats far too much for my liking. Swashbuckling action adventure music? Not what I would call it.

I have listened to nothing from him that has wowed me. His theme for SHIELD... come on. Average at best. Something Brian Tyler could write probably in his sleep.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I'm a Whedon lover, but S.H.I.E.L.D. will need to improve if I am to keep watching it. Pilots usually underwhelm me, so I'll watch a few more episodes. I liked the music a lot. Enjoyed the humor, but hoping for more development in the future.

(I did watch The Black List pilot and was totally enamored and hooked.)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2013 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Bear is really overrated. Aside of this, this show most likely won't last long.

really?

I guess that Emmy he got last week from his peers was just mistake on their part....

:-)

The man is very talented and after watching him grow as a composer over nearly ten years I will say there is a lot of great work ahead of him.


Ford A. Thaxton


Awards shows.. oh awards shows. Peers patting each other on the back giving each other awards. Award shows mean nothing. I guess you also thought Gustavo Santaolalla deserved to win for Brokeback Mountain? Didn't think so.

I'm not saying Bear isn't a good composer, he is. But he isn't a great composer. Not yet, anyway. And he gloats far too much for my liking. Swashbuckling action adventure music? Not what I would call it.

I have listened to nothing from him that has wowed me. His theme for SHIELD... come on. Average at best. Something Brian Tyler could write probably in his sleep.




WOW, Bitter party of one....

Geez, someone needs to lighten up a bit.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2013 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

Watching it at the moment, the music isn't bad thus far but _very_ incidental with tiny little flourishes to underscore some statement. Also sounded like Raya singing the opera style track near the beginning. I liked the touching music at the resolution of the standoff and he gets shot in the head

Gags hit the mark for me, even ones like "I'm not Hermione". Fitz & Simmons are enjoyable, though I struggled to understand them a couple of times (this despite me being British). Can't imagine how American's are coping with the accents.

I want me a Lola!

 
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