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 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)


YOR hopes that this trend end someday soon too, but doubt it since there are a lot of people who actually like this kind of noise...


It won't end, not only because of that, but because today's teenagers who will become tomorrow's film producers and directors are growing up with this style, and are accustomed to it, so they will never ask for anything more than this (eg like the symphonic scores of the past).
I think the last generation that loves symphonic scores is the one who was born during the 80s and early 90s..


Are you joking, right? How do you know that most of today's teenagers don't care about orchestral scores? Especially the ones who are able to recognize and love the music from the Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games, LOTR, The Hobbit, and others?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'm starting to like this yonythemoony guy!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Haha The Hunger Games is part of the problem as is most of the Twilight music (other than New Moon and the Twilight Overture).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:20 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I am with DEPUTY RILEY, LOREN, YOUNY THE MONY AND RANDOM GUY on this issue. There are so many films made worldwide, there is still so much to enjoy. The same type moaners were saying the same thing in the late 60's the 70's etc etc and when they were saying it there were people like us who were saying what are they talking about. Yes it is about people getting old, they are seeing it through their ears and eyes, not the reality of the situation, Does a 70 year old baseball fan get the same pleasure as a 18 year old fan, I doubt it , rare cases. Yes RANDOM GUY, it's the same old trick they talk about a few blockbusters they don't like how the score is done and ignore and don't even hear the large amount of films made worldwide every year. It truly is the same old dreary song.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . that glorious legacy which brought us scripts from the GREATS such as Garson and Kanin . . .

smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2013 - 11:35 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Yes it is about people getting old, they are seeing it through their ears and eyes, not the reality of the situation

I'm still in my 20s, so I'm not getting old. Yet I have certain expectations for film music I've developed as I have gone exploring the classics once the new stuff lost it's appeal. Many people I talk with regularly I know are in their 30s at the oldest and they largely agree with me and wait for a time when things will be more interesting musically.

Most of the scores that I was interested in when I first started exploring film music get very little play anymore because they are just not complex enough to sustain my interest.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Are you joking, right? How do you know that most of today's teenagers don't care about orchestral scores? Especially the ones who are able to recognize and love the music from the Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games, LOTR, The Hobbit, and others?

YOR just laughed at this dude's argument.

Say no more!

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Droning ambient noise is droning ambient noise regardless when it was produced. It has nothing to do with us "old" cranky folks who can't except anything new. I do agree there are some really nice work being done in Japan, UK, Spain, etc. It's just much harder to find.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Michaelware   (Member)

The culture has to change. The people who get to make films have to have the ability to understand feelings and humanistic values again, reflective thought patterns. That is lacking in movies worldwide and the type of music follows.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

Are you joking, right? How do you know that most of today's teenagers don't care about orchestral scores? Especially the ones who are able to recognize and love the music from the Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games, LOTR, The Hobbit, and others?

YOR just laughed at this dude's argument.


But how is that different from a lot of great film music from, say, the 80s? Much of it written for cheesy spectacles and blockbusters that our parents probably hated. All those films mentioned above have big orchestral scores with lots of themes and development, don't they?

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)

Droning ambient noise is droning ambient noise regardless when it was produced. It has nothing to do with us "old" cranky folks who can't except anything new.

What he said!

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Are you joking, right? How do you know that most of today's teenagers don't care about orchestral scores? Especially the ones who are able to recognize and love the music from the Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games, LOTR, The Hobbit, and others?

YOR just laughed at this dude's argument.


But how is that different from a lot of great film music from, say, the 80s? Much of it written for cheesy spectacles and blockbusters that our parents probably hated. All those films mentioned above have big orchestral scores with lots of themes and development, don't they?


90% of today's adventura/fantasy/sci-fi movies are scored by Zimmer, his clones or even good composers forced to emulate their styles.

In the 80's it was the other way around. Almost all movies of these genres were scored by really good composers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

Yeah, it's depressing. Good stuff is still being written, but it's being increasingly drowned out by the Media Ventures 'one size fits all' kind of score. I hope it'll change but I doubt it. People, especially young people, like this kind of score. There are people out there who say Zimmer's Man Of Shit theme is the equal of Williams's.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I've read a post in another forum from someone who loves film music as much as I do.

He is very positive on "Man of Steel" and claims that Zimmer's score, love it or hate it, is what we are STUCK with.

And he's right. We're stuck with Zimmer because the folks making films love him for having no melody in his music.

He suggested that if I didn't like it, then it was just tough titty.

To which I reply....pass me a glass of Golden Age...mellowed and bold.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

[startquote. There are people out there who say Zimmer's Man Of Shit theme is the equal of Williams's.


you made that up!
NOBODY has said that

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

At Home Theater Forum, there is plenty of excitement (well, "comments) about "Man of Steel". It's not like a DVD or BD has been reviewed or anything, but they're having a lot of fun with it.

One of the film reviewers at that site, Neil Middlemiss, has done a review, of sorts, about Zimmer's score:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/324442-man-of-steel-deluxe-edition-cd-soundtrack-review/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

[startquote. There are people out there who say Zimmer's Man Of Shit theme is the equal of Williams's.


you made that up!
NOBODY has said that

Nah. I haven't made it up. Somebody at work said that to me. Plus someone else said it on EmpireOnline, another forum I'm on, you can read it for yourself!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

. There are people out there who say Zimmer's Man Of Shit theme is the equal of Williams's.

you made that up!
NOBODY has said that

Nah. I haven't made it up. Somebody at work said that to me. Plus someone else said it on EmpireOnline, another forum I'm on, you can read it for yourself!!


 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2013 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

 
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