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Jul 1, 2013 - 4:19 AM
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Yeah, Stephen, well said. It's fascinating that a great many people take opposing preferences as personal affronts and then responds with personal affronts.
I don´t think that´s surprising at all. Many "fans" have lived with and loved the music of their favourite composer for decades and it is part of their life. No wonder they take it as personal affronts as it IS personal to them. If you criticise the composer, you indirectly criticise them. Now, nobody would probably protest if you wrote something like "it´s not my kind of music" or "it´s not to my taste". But writing things like "Barry could have been farting into a cup and no doubt many would choose his over someone else's" or "boring, grating and even the song is pants" is bound to provoke the appropriate answer (I know as I, too, write such things  ). Maybe a board like this even needs that kind of "discussion" to remain lively, I don´t know. In the end it is a completely unnecessary discussion, which only proves that people have different tastes. And that some have very bad taste. 
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Yes, I think there is something — dare I say 'more enlightened'? — about being able to compare notes about what we like and don't like as a means of socialization whilst simultaneously not being needy for people to agree with us.
My good lady can't stand Jerry Goldsmith and I'll bet that's a headscratcher to a lot of people. But, thing is, it doesn't have to ruin your day.
It's just a case of saying to yourself, "Oh, okay" and carrying on.
That said, there can sometimes be some needle in a comment that makes you want to go, "Ouch!" and poke back. Yep, I get that. Just human nature.
But back to the poll: yes I am interested in seeing how the poll unfolds.
Cheers
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I must say, I think Colombier found a style and, more importantly, a really, genuinely catchy theme that was just perfect for the "Eddie Murphy-ness" of it.
It was a turkey of a film with a badly mis-cast star.
Barry's approach to saving the film was to make the music bigger and more dramatic. He put his music behind the story.
Colombier tried to save it by recognizing that you had to go with the "Eddie Murphy" vibe. He put his music behind the star.
In that sense, I think Colombier read the situation (i.e. anticipated who was going to see it, why they were going to see it and what they were going to want) better than Barry.
However, as a score to prop up the story, I really thought Barry's score was impressive. His music certainly does 'big' the film up, giving it the mystery, drive, gravitas and romance it desperately lacked. This comes through when you check out the clips where his music has been restored.
What he didn't give it was the comic lightness the audience would have wanted and an "Eddie Murphy theme".
With two such wildly different scores, it really is a case of "horses for courses".
Cheers
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Well, again another illustration of how we can see the same thing and have a different experience of it. Yes, the film does have it's fans.
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I just received the 2011 La La Land 3CD. For me, the Michel Colombier score is miles and miles more interesting than the rather sleepy John Barry score. Let's see how the FSM members vote.
Neither. The Colombier effort is trendy in the worst sense. Which means that it feels twice as arcane and outdated now than does the Barry score. Orchestral music ages better.
But wait. I say neither because Barry's score is instantly forgettable, tired and routine. Been there, done that. Orchestral it is, symphonic it isn't. Barry didn't command the craft for symphonic. No matter which genre he worked in, the result was always a mix of jazz and "I got my education from an organist". But it doesn't feel as cheap as the Colombier score. It's routine, but it's not cheap. Barry didn't debase his talent when faced with this huge load of celluloid tripe, which actually says a lot about his integrity. It's not great, but it's an honest days' work.
Colombier DID debase his not inconsiderable talent to pander to the producers' taste, or lack thereof.
Let's say the film eventually got the score it so richly deserved.
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Colombier...
Found Barry's to be very forgettable (and boring). Can see this being a one sided vote, Barry could have been farting into a cup and no doubt many would choose his over someone else's just because of the composers past works and the fact that it is John Barry. Similar occurs with Goldsmith.
LOL, I totally agree!
What point having the poll when If Barry wins the result will be rubbished by the person starting the thread anyway.
Really? Seems like we have to do with a real psychic here.
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