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 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm not a Matrix fan so I'll pass but will definitely be picking up 'Wyatt Earp' and 'Jobs'

A nice batch from La-La-Land to wind up the Summer.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the missing material just the short bit of Paul Oakenfold overlayed by Davis after he fights three agents:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnuquqR7QOQ

And then about a 50 second Juno Reactor bit in the garage, just before the car chase (starting at 0:53)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjQkP1kpUGQ

The total amount of which runs about... 70 seconds? If so, not a big deal, is it?

Karol - very happy about those releases


You got that wrong. Juno Reactor / Don Davis did the film version for "Free Flight" (first clip).

Paul Oakenfold is the one who's music is part of film version for "Double Trouble" (parking garage bit).

It's definitely not a big deal that those are missing, some people just are ungrateful.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Oh OK, you're probably right. Me bad.

Anyway, it's just 70 seconds. I'm still breathing after 50 seconds missing of Batman Forever, I shall survive this. wink

Karol

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I'm curious what you had to negotiate with Nimoy and Downey Jr. Was it for use of likeness? (I know you probably can't answer)

Robert Downey Jr. is probably related to the song he performed on John Ottman's excellent Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

http://www.lalalandrecords.com/KissKissBangBang.html

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)



Maybe someone down the road will be able to do this trilogy right.


That is just a selfish and stupid ass statement as I've ever read.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

May I ask question not about 2 Matrix tracks?

I never see Wyatt Earp.
IMDB said it's Costner/Kasdan production.
Why, the hell they don't asked John Barry to compose score?!
He wrote fantastic music for Kasdan's Body Heat, he earn Oscar for Costner's Dances with Wolves...
Was he just unavailable or there were another reason (for example, they didn't want to work together after Bodyguard case)?

If anyone know the story, please, tell it!

And another question - how JNH score sounds like? Does it have some in common with Dances with Wolves (lyric themes) or just another western movie with harmonica every 3 seconds?


The score is epic in sound with some outstanding themes. No harmonica that I can recall or the old fashioned "twang". Melodic and sometimes thunderous. One of JNH's best by far. Shamefully overlooked movie and score. When Wyatt and crew walk through town to the OK Coral, the thundering bass is beyond belief!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

Probably, he also holds you responsible for all the horrible traffic on the I-405, because of reasons!

"Because of reasons!" = DYING

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   BackToTheFutureFan   (Member)

Davis' sound in the Matrix films is iconic. The Varese release of the first one and this release are MUST HAVES for anyone remotely interested in film music. Can't thank these labels enough. Thanks for all the hard work LLL. I can definitely see this one selling out fast.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

YOR is happy!

Thanks La-La Land!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

The score is epic in sound with some outstanding themes. No harmonica that I can recall or the old fashioned "twang". Melodic and sometimes thunderous. One of JNH's best by far. Shamefully overlooked movie and score. When Wyatt and crew walk through town to the OK Coral, the thundering bass is beyond belief!

I would agree with that. I'm very fond of the score and film, but I'm undecided whether to buy this new release. I really like the original release, I think it's a great listen and it's a good hour or so which generally is enough for me. But the idea of 3 discs and nice new artwork and notes is tempting...

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

YOR is happy!

Thanks La-La Land!


Off topic, but this might make YOR a little sadder - AV Club just gave your OST a sound thrashing in their "10 Least Essential Albums of 1983" http://www.avclub.com/articles/old-wave-the-10-least-essential-albums-of-1983,101853/

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I never see Wyatt Earp.
IMDB said it's Costner/Kasdan production.
Why, the hell they don't asked John Barry to compose score?!
He wrote fantastic music for Kasdan's Body Heat, he earn Oscar for Costner's Dances with Wolves...
Was he just unavailable or there were another reason (for example, they didn't want to work together after Bodyguard case)?

If anyone know the story, please, tell it!

And another question - how JNH score sounds like? Does it have some in common with Dances with Wolves (lyric themes) or just another western movie with harmonica every 3 seconds?


Answering in reverse order, I think your apparent disdain for non-Barry western music is misplaced. In this case, Howard's score is epic, lyrical, sprawling, and exciting. And not a harmonica anywhere (though I also like harmonica).

As for "the story" as to why Barry wasn't involved, I have no idea, though I suspect the story is simply "Barry wasn't involved." I mean, you might as well ask why Bruce Broughton didn't score it, after receiving an Oscar nomination for his score for Kasdan's earlier western, "Silverado." "Wyatt Earp" and "Dances With Wolves" are tonally very, very different films, and while I would never say Barry couldn't score it, I can also understand why the filmmakers would turn to a different composer for a different sound. Kasdan had just worked with James Newton Howard on "Grand Canyon" and clearly liked the experience (he used Howard exclusively thereafter). That's probably as much story as there is.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Answering in reverse order, I think your apparent disdain for non-Barry western music is misplaced. In this case, Howard's score is epic, lyrical, sprawling, and exciting. And not a harmonica anywhere (though I also like harmonica).

As for "the story" as to why Barry wasn't involved, I have no idea, though I suspect the story is simply "Barry wasn't involved." I mean, you might as well ask why Bruce Broughton didn't score it, after receiving an Oscar nomination for his score for Kasdan's earlier western, "Silverado." "Wyatt Earp" and "Dances With Wolves" are tonally very, very different films, and while I would never say Barry couldn't score it, I can also understand why the filmmakers would turn to a different composer for a different sound. Kasdan had just worked with James Newton Howard on "Grand Canyon" and clearly liked the experience (he used Howard exclusively thereafter). That's probably as much story as there is.


Just to add to that, I remember reading at the time Costner wasn't too enamoured with Howard's score. Apparently the first time he heard it properly was when he went to the film's premiere and felt it was too dramatic and overblown in parts. That's not to say someone else would have composed something better, of course.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Answering in reverse order, I think your apparent disdain for non-Barry western music is misplaced. In this case, Howard's score is epic, lyrical, sprawling, and exciting. And not a harmonica anywhere (though I also like harmonica).

As for "the story" as to why Barry wasn't involved, I have no idea, though I suspect the story is simply "Barry wasn't involved." I mean, you might as well ask why Bruce Broughton didn't score it, after receiving an Oscar nomination for his score for Kasdan's earlier western, "Silverado." "Wyatt Earp" and "Dances With Wolves" are tonally very, very different films, and while I would never say Barry couldn't score it, I can also understand why the filmmakers would turn to a different composer for a different sound. Kasdan had just worked with James Newton Howard on "Grand Canyon" and clearly liked the experience (he used Howard exclusively thereafter). That's probably as much story as there is.

Just to add to that, I remember reading at the time Costner wasn't too enamoured with Howard's score. Apparently the first time he heard it properly was when he went to the film's premiere and felt it was too dramatic and overblown in parts. That's not to say someone else would have composed something better, of course.


He not a not only adores this score and Howards work that he subsequently used him on Waterworld and The Postman.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

i am certainly in for matrix and wyatt earp. both stellar releases that blow the previous releases out of the water, complete or not. i have a hard time deciding which i'm more excited about. so both very welcome. and most importantly they should keep me well organized in that finaly 2 week gap before x files!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

SchiffyM, TominAtl, Thomas - thanks for replay!
First of all - I need to listen samples now.
And about my "apparent disdain for non-Barry western music". It's my blame, but I really don't like westerns at all. I don't know why - maybe in my childhood, when all this movies appeared in Russia for the first time on our TV, I watched bad examples - for me all westerns are simple and silly: this is good guy -> here we see many bad guys -> dramatic scene -> good guy shoot all bad guys -> good guy leaves in the rays of the setting sun. Maybe I'm wrong (and someone can give me many examples of good films!), but first impressions was too bad. After this I never see any westerns and so I have interest only in ones, which has music from my favorite composer - John Barry wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, Costner had him re-use "It All Ends Here" from Earp in The Postman, almost note-for-note, so I imagine he was OK with it!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Off topic, but this might make YOR a little sadder - AV Club just gave your OST a sound thrashing in their "10 Least Essential Albums of 1983" http://www.avclub.com/articles/old-wave-the-10-least-essential-albums-of-1983,101853/

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Not a lot has interest me this year, but I'm sure in for Wyatt Earp & Matrix! Next big release will be Police Academy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Maybe someone down the road will be able to do this trilogy right.

That is just a selfish and stupid ass statement as I've ever read.


You took the words out of my mouth, TominAtl.

 
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