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Great, you guys keep Ford on track. Whatever the price ...
I'm just interested in the music.
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Tyler Bates has a lot of talent. If he didn't, he wouldn't be working today.
Lehah, talking about illogical statements ...
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No. I'm despising a man that took credit of a piece of a work that is clearly another's. Did he pull that out of his ass, or yours?
So, in that case you must also despise James Horner, Hans Zimmer, John Williams and almost every other Hollywood composer?
Copying the temp track ain't a rare thing in Hollywood, so why is Bates the only one receiving crap for it?
And to hear Bates is talented one only has to listen to his score to "The Way"
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No interest in this movie whatsoever, even less in the score (now). Anybody else suffering from severe superhero-fatigue?
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Aug 22, 2013 - 12:52 PM
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No. I'm despising a man that took credit of a piece of a work that is clearly another's. Did he pull that out of his ass, or yours?
So, in that case you must also despise James Horner, Hans Zimmer, John Williams and almost every other Hollywood composer?
Copying the temp track ain't a rare thing in Hollywood, so why is Bates the only one receiving crap for it?
Other more talented composers don't do a 1:1 copy of the temp track. They at least make some variations of it. Believe it or not, if Zimmer was asked to score to the temp track of "Titus", he'd write something that sounds like Zimmer, not Elliot Goldenthal.
And yes I despise Horner for stealing from the dead, and the Russians. He is allowed to steal from the younger himself, though.
BTW I haven't heard "The Way" as you mentioned. But if a guy is asked to score Conan the Babarian, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Watchmen and God of War, and can't write something memorable, then I don't even know what to say.
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I can sympathize with the posters who assume Tyler Bates is a hack based on his music that has been released that they didn't find particularly interesting. It is nothing personal to a composer but after a while if you hear a number of disappointing scores from a composer you tend to write them off.
You might "Write Him Off"..
But it appears that the folks who are making these movies don't share your vastly more important opinion and seem to be hiring him and seem to be quite pleased with is work...
In the long run, which one should matter to Mr. Bates?
Ford A. Thaxton
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Y'all, please try to keep it civil for the rest of the thread. It's so damn ugly in here. If I receive any more reports on this thread, it's toast. Thanks.
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He's a very talented musician and a rather nice human being.
My cat is a very talented musician and ten times a nicer creature than him.
Btw, why are you defending a plagiarist? Do you endorse plagiarism somehow?
sigh 
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Aug 30, 2013 - 4:08 PM
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Ok, I get that many here don't care for Tyler Bates, but about this (from the announcement):
Grateful to be working with my favorite composer, Tyler Bates, on Guardians of the Galaxy. Unlike most films, Tyler writes huge chunks of the score first so that I can actually film to the music. During action scenes and huge dramatic moments we blare the score on set so that the cast, crew, and camera can move in harmony with the music. Music is often an afterthought in film, but never for us. And everything Tyler’s done so far has been amazing!
Does no one else find this remarkable in this day and age - that the composer would come up with stuff this early, and the moviemakers shoot to it?! I know Steven Spielberg and John Williams legendarily worked that way on Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but it's not really common, is it? Could it mean here that they really are doing more with the music on this one than has become the norm in recent years?
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Aug 30, 2013 - 5:42 PM
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Ok, I get that many here don't care for Tyler Bates, but about this (from the announcement):
Grateful to be working with my favorite composer, Tyler Bates, on Guardians of the Galaxy. Unlike most films, Tyler writes huge chunks of the score first so that I can actually film to the music. During action scenes and huge dramatic moments we blare the score on set so that the cast, crew, and camera can move in harmony with the music. Music is often an afterthought in film, but never for us. And everything Tyler’s done so far has been amazing!
Does no one else find this remarkable in this day and age - that the composer would come up with stuff this early, and the moviemakers shoot to it?! I know Steven Spielberg and John Williams legendarily worked that way on Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but it's not really common, is it? Could it mean here that they really are doing more with the music on this one than has become the norm in recent years?
It is indeed rare but ultimately will it matter? The director's previous work "Slither" is a generic horror film with a generic score. If he indeed used this approach in that film, then it made no difference in terms of the shooting style or score quality.
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