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Sep 26, 2013 - 8:56 AM
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Chris Avis
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There seems to be a general consensus that a kickstarter would only apply to a more obscure score rather than a big grail. I'd be all in favor of giving it a whirl to see how well the process works out, but whichever label tries it is going to have to do a great job of selling the score to those of us unfamiliar with it.
About 1/3rd of my purchases are for scores that were totally off my radar prior to my release. Most recently, I purchased Rising Sun... the score to a film I've never seen by a composer I'd never heard of. What sold me on it was a combination of the sound clips, Bruce's (excellent) salesmanship and the positive comments on the board. So for kickstarter to go, you're going to have to have one hell of a sales pitch, given that I'm guessing the sound clips will be out of the question until the project is launched.
The other avenue I can see for kickstarter is for a prominent score that is in a different niche than most labels appeal to and is therefore a risk. Something like a musical or a cartoon. In this respect, the suggestion of something like My Little Pony is perhaps not a bad idea. That cartoon clearly has a large fan base, but one that's unproven in terms of its willingness to buy CDs from boutique labels. And, as we well know from the board MLP doesn't necessarily have the largest fan base amongst conventional soundtrack fans.
Anyways, give it a shot, if the score sounds appealing, I have no issues tossing in $20.
Chris.
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How many times have labels misjudged the level of interest in something and had to eat their up-front costs? This Kickstarter (or other) method would give a nice indication of interest right up front. The label would have to be certain to get the word out broadly among the "Soundtrackies", but that's what boards like this are for.
Let the labels ask how much interest there would be in a title, similar to what LLL did with the Star Trek OS Box. You did not have to pay upfront, you just reserved a copy which gave them a number of people who were interested and then they could decide to press what they felt would work or cancel the project. The labels do not want to do this probably because if the rights are not negotiated yet, some other label could go after the title before they did, which I could see some of the labels here doing.
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Sep 26, 2013 - 9:59 AM
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tarasis
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Hi Lukas, Its an interesting idea and one I've been waiting to see if a label would give it a try.
I've backed a bunch of projects so far, a couple of which have been basically pre-sales for CD's some of which have taken a year plus to come out. (Alister Brimble's Amiga Works, Chris Huelbeck's Turrican Anthology, and the recent Video Games Live Level 3. I would have backed Jeremy Soule's KS had I known about it)
I have no problems backing a project that takes a long time to get done, though I'd be slightly concerned about investing in something for it to completely fold and not get anything back for it. Something I've seen happen to a couple of KS, though none yet that I've backed (I have had a couple that have been pushed back horribly like Double Fine Adventure & Carmaggedon Reincarnation, though the DFA documentary has been incredibly interesting and made up for the delay)
How would you handle limits? Given most limited edition soundtracks are limited to a max of 10k for money reasons and IIRC you can't limit the KS completely (specific tiers yes). That said you probably aren't going to get that many pre-sales unless its complete Harry Potter, Star Wars, or Indy 
The other thing is how do you handle awareness. Some Kickstarters, despite doing a lot of press, just don't get the sort of backing you'd expect for the effort they've put in & fan base they have, for instance the recent Video Games Live which struggled over the finishing line.
I tend to back digital only tiers except for a few specific KS, where they are sending CD's from UK/Europe but I wouldn't let postage dissuade me from backing a score project that I want.
Anyway, me I'd love to see a KS to release a Quantum Leap 3-4 CD set, I'd gladly plump in $75-100 to see that happen
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See below, sorry.
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"Come and then they might build it".
You are right and the key word there is "might".
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See above, my computer just hiccuped.
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There is one positive about kickstarter for the consumer and that would be the input of the people who fund it; mabey give feedback on artwork choices, album presentation, ... etc.
With as many people that have issues with artwork, album presentation, ...etc of releases on here, would the labels want to open that up to the consumer? I know if an album was not presented the way I would expect it and I helped fund it, I would see myself not funding future projects. If the labels can't take the chance on a release than leave it for some other label that can. If the labels do start using this system, I do not see myself participating until the CD is released and at that time I will decide. Someone mentioned supporting digital releases above...absolutely no support from me even after they are released.
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I think using kickstarter for film score projects is a great idea. There are many fans who would be happy to put up the same $20 ahead of time that they eventually would pay when the CD is ready, not to mention the additional fans who would happily pay more for their dream project, especially knowing it's release will lead to the label continuing to be able to do other projects, etc.
Let's try one!
Get a kickstarter going for Schifrin's Earth Star Voyager and I'll pledge $50 right now!
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Sep 26, 2013 - 10:56 AM
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Spymaster
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I think using kickstarter for film score projects is a great idea. There are many fans who would be happy to put up the same $20 ahead of time that they eventually would pay when the CD is ready, not to mention the additional fans who would happily pay more for their dream project, especially knowing it's release will lead to the label continuing to be able to do other projects, etc.
Let's try one!
Get a kickstarter going for Schifrin's Earth Star Voyager and I'll pledge $50 right now!
The trouble is, you're not talking about $20. Theoretically you're talking $500 a year - or more - if you buy a lot. Worse case scenario you might be shelling out $1000-$2000 a year for the following year's releases, none of which might happen, or might turn out to be disappointing when, say, only 3/4 of the score can be found.
Imagine trying to keep track of what you've spent on actual product, what you've invested in future product... it could out to be a personal financial nightmare!
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I think it depends on the label that's involved, more than anything else.
This I also agree with and I would hope that Intrada is fine financially especially with their connection with Disney.
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I would be down with this, yes.
It sounds similar to funding Public Television. I pledge to PBS, but I don’t have a say in what shows they produce or buy, I just think it’s a good idea to have PBS.
Same with the Soundtrack Labels, I would have no problem in helping to fund future projects.
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