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Dec 1, 2013 - 6:49 AM
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danbeck
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Just received Halloween 5 "expanded", here my comments:
First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
The 2013 and 1989 mixes are very similar and the main differences I could spot where:
Some rock beats inserted at 0:25 of "The Child of Evil Must Die" 2013 mix.
A stinger at the end of the 2013 mix of Victim #1 (not present at the 1989 mix), not sure which is closer to the film version.
First 0:58 of "Stranger Things" 2013 mix (including a short rock version of the main theme) is not present at the 1989 mix (Stranger In The House). But final 1:40 minutes of Stranger In The House (the "Myers House" piano theme from the 1st movie is not included in the 2013 mix).
"Tower Farm Murders" 2013 mix is very different to "Tower Farm" in its first 2:15 minutes, the 2013 mix includes Jamie's Theme from H4 and some different stingers and piano renditions of Myer's House at the beginning while the 1989 mix has some different suspense music and the Halloween theme at the beginning.
"The Raging Must Stop" 2013 mix includes one additional minute, some extended suspense music added between 1:00 and 2:57 of the track.
Those were the differences I could spot on a first comparison. As I only saw the film once years ago I can not comment on which version is closer to the actual film score.
So far I'd rank the AHI Halloween expansions as follows:
1- Halloween III - essential. It was the one more in need for expansion. The AHI version is not perfect (some of the music is not included [film version of Chariots of Pumpikins, some mask announcements] the additional material is not very well organized, some additional music mixed with alternates, one track with a 1min. silence and odd tracks names) but it includes the more essential missing material.
2 - Halloween 4 - highly recomended. An expansion done properly, the additional material placed in its chronological order and this one seems really complete (but you need to keep the album if you prefer certain album edits)
3- Halloween 5 - recomended for fans. New mix sounds good. I liked the insert of Jamie's Theme from H4 (wish it had been used more on H5 and H6), but not sure if it represents the film score better than the 1989 album (which already claimed to include the complete score). If you like the songs from the movie you'll need to keep the Varese edition.
4 - Halloween II - missed oportunity. Very odd mixes, cross fade at the album main title plus missing material makes this one of the worst "expanded" editions ever released. Keep the original album.
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First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?
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First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?
That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.
It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.
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Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.
It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.
Really? That's what the production company sent and approved.
They have the final approval and folks tend to be very unhappy if you mess with their logos.
Their artwork and their call.
That is how it works in the real world.
Ford A. Thaxton
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DOUBLE POST
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First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?
That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.
Ford A. Thaxton
So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?
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Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.
It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.
Really? That's what the production company sent and approved.
They have the final approval and folks tend to be very unhappy if you mess with their logos.
Their artwork and their call.
That is how it works in the real world.
Ford A. Thaxton
Know what else happens in the real world, Ford? People on the production end of things notice mistakes and call the appropriate contact to let them know. Then they ask them if there's a corrected file or if they mind corrections being made and re-approved of? Are you telling me that you and/or the rest of the production team noticed this error and just left it like that? Or are you just talking out of your ass because you didn't previously notice this? I, too, work in a world where graphics need to be approved of, and the "real world" you describe is one of little attention to detail - which, as I stated, has become quite common with AHI's releases.
But please, Ford, ignore the fact that there are complaints with just about every release AHI does and pretend that you're in the real world and we're in a world of fantasy where quality, attention to detail, attention to how music is mixed, attention to how music is listed on the back cover, matters but really shouldn't... in the real world.
And believe me, I'm not one for lambasting a label for the occasional mistake, but a) they're common with AHI; and b) instead of ever having an inkling of understanding as to why fans who plonk down their hard-earned money should gripe about mistakes like these, you always take the Ford road, which is to turn the criticism back onto those who actually have a point to make and lambaste them for actually caring about a little quality in the product you, sir, produce.
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First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?
That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.
Ford A. Thaxton
So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?
You can do it yourself…
go to http://alanhowarth.com and send him a email through his site.
He does read them.
So, drop him a note.
Ford A. Thaxton
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First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.
Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?
That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.
Ford A. Thaxton
So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?
You can do it yourself…
go to http://alanhowarth.com and send him a email through his site.
He does read them.
So, drop him a note.
Ford A. Thaxton
Yes, folks. Contact the composer to ask him if new tray liners will be produced. That should work out nicely for everyone.
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Know what else happens in the real world, Ford?
Fanboys get very upset when you tell them the truth and they can't handle it…...
If you wish to take this up with Mr. Howarth, be my guest:
You can contact him at
alanhowarth.com
He reads his email.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Know what else happens in the real world, Ford?
Fanboys get very upset when you tell them the truth and they can't handle it…...
If you wish to take this up with Mr. Howarth, be my guest:
You can contact him at
alanhowarth.com
He reads his email.
Ford A. Thaxton
Aw, fanboys. Yes, folks. There's the world of Ford A. Thaxton and then there are the fanboys, which not only negates the fact that there are many types of soundtrack music fans out there, but that there are also fans of the female gender as well. Aah, the antiquated and cute little "real world" of Ford A. Thaxton.
Truly, though, who doesn't love a good "conversation" with the Fordster? Rob Ford A. Thaxton, as we say here in Toronto, Canada, eh?
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