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 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

It's likely a recording by someone else that was licensed for use in the film.

I would imagine it's the same for Chattanooga Choo Choo and the like.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Why wasn't that "Dancing In The Dark" cue included? I am not even sure if that is the correct title, but - I really wanted that music in high quality.

Reeve, as I told you in that other thread, that is absolutely the correct title. It is widely considered one of the most important and influential songs of the last century.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Thanks Guys!

I can't wait to hear this!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 11:01 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



...and "TerraEpon" - there is no need for swearing - do not down grade yourself like that! If you love this score, then have some respect, if not, don't bother posting!

I am simply saying that I would like more symphonic music on this album rather than pop elements.


Actually I want to apologize as I thought you were a different poster. I wouldn't have called you a troll if I didn't read your name wrong.

But my point still stands. The album certainly WAS as long as Intrada claims, it doesn't matter if not all of it was Horner.

And is there anything indicating anything is missing from Intrada's release? How could they put more that doesn't exist?:

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

Screen Archives now says about this title:

This item has a planned release date of November 20, 2013 and is only available for PRE-ORDER at this time.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Screen Archives now says about this title:

This item has a planned release date of November 20, 2013 and is only available for PRE-ORDER at this time.


Intrada page says "Back in stock in 2 weeks". Some kind of delay at the pressing plant?

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

Screen Archives now says about this title:

This item has a planned release date of November 20, 2013 and is only available for PRE-ORDER at this time.


Intrada page says "Back in stock in 2 weeks". Some kind of delay at the pressing plant?


No, I think the first batch is sold out already.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

No, I think the first batch is sold out already.

I do believe you're correct, as I received my shipping notice for this album (and "Red October") an hour or so ago. Greatly looking forward to listening to both!

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Glad it's selling really well for them! smile I was planning on waiting a few weeks before I place my order anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   dpsternan   (Member)

Received Cocoon, Red October, Lone Ranger, and Fitzwilly today! I'll try to post comments as soon as I'm able to.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Received "Cocoon" today, and just downloaded it, but am still listening to "Heaven Can Wait," which arrived yesterday. The little I've played of "Cocoon" sounds great, reminding me why it was one of the first James Horner scores to bring him to my attention nearly 30 years ago. Although I was aware of some of his music before then -- "Star Treks 2 & 3," "Testament," "Brainstorm," and others -- it was "Cocoon" that really made me sit up and take notice of him.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

I have always had a soft spot for "Brainstorm" and "Wrath of Khan", but "Cocoon" I think is one of James' loveliest, most rhapsodic scores. And, boy, it is wonderful to hear it again in such clarity. Parts seem really quite different from the old vinyl album, but I still love that, nonetheless. I think I only saw the movie one time, on its theatrical release at the Odeon Leicester Square in London, in 1985, so I am feeling like a return visit is imminent. Thanks, Nick, Douglass, Mike and all involved. Wonderful release!

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

dogplant:

Obviously Horner's music for "Cocoon" struck you like it did for so many of us. I just fell in love with it while watching the movie when it was first released, and would buy it on VHS and then DVD and then Blu-ray, but, music-wise, started with the CD and totally bypassing LP -- for anything that came out in 1983 and afterwards, I stuck with getting the CD, and have played much of the original soundtrack repeatedly, especially "First Tears" and "Sad Goodbye," which I used to like to couple together in compilation tapes I was making 30 years ago. Yikes -- I just noticed that since both the old CD and the new one have the same name, my iTunes has combined them as a single album. Will have to give the new one something to distinguish it from the other -- months from now it might be hard to remember which are which!

Follow-Up. I've had a chance to play it, and while it sounds great, I want to play it a couple more times before making any comment on it. Some here have mentioned the Big Band music, and I think that this part (by Julie Kirgo) of the nice liner note booklet is worth sharing:

As gorgeous as these lyrical moments are -- and as plentifully arrayed with them as the score for Cocoon is -- they are not the only weapons from the composer's arsenal on display here. On tap also is that rare delight, the playful Horner, making hay with an absolutely irresistible bit of Big Band-style swing ("Going To The Pool," "Seduction"/"Let's Go," and most completely in "The Boys Are Out"). Marvelously authentic and just plain fun, this is music that also serves an important narrative function, reminding us of the long-gone youth of the film's protagonists. In a whole other mood, there is "The Chase" a fast and furious slice of action music that segues into some heroic variations on the Cocoon theme; this is more familiar Horner territory, harking back to his Star Trek scores and ahead to the likes of Project X.

I was worried when I heard some of the pre-release speculation that Intrada had added a lot of Big Band music, but it's clear, despite some references to established songs, that Horner created new music in the spirit of what these characters might have been hearing and dancing to in the ballroom. Still, that's a little troubling, since whether it's the actual Big Band music or just Horner's recreations of it, it's still not what I was seeking when I bought this, and after playing those cues realize that they are NOT my cup of tea. So if we delete them from the total, it seems to be whittling down and getting closer to what we already have on the original soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Dutch_Silvestri   (Member)

Received both Cocoon and Red October today big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2013 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I'm glad I didn't jump on this then. I have never seen the film and was only moderately impressed by the album but the thought of adding big band music to it does not excite me at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2013 - 3:15 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

I’m so sad to read that Horner’s Big Band Music is not your “cup of tea” – since after reading the liner notes, you can clearly read that the music is fun!
Quite the opposite to what Hans Zimmer did for “Man of Steel” – which is dark!
Hear those beautiful drums in the Big Band sequences of Cocoon! Exquisite Fun!
How can you not love that!

In Cocoon, we also have those memorable themes in First Tears, and Sad Goodbyes which is hauntingly beautiful – unlike today’s “big blockbusters” which is pure wallpaper crap.
Every note of music here is rich and colorful.

Please Intrada, release “Cocoon: The Return” as a follow up.
If both of James Horner’s “Star Trek” scores can get released, (and the Jack Ryan/Harrison Ford films) then – so can Cocoon.
Please!

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2013 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Please Intrada, release “Cocoon: The Return” as a follow up.

Please Intrada, DON'T! It's a very weak follow-up, in fact it's just a thinner rehash of the original, which, despite one very obvious rip-off of Britten's Sinfonia da Requiem (and probably of a few other pieces as well, it's Horner after all) is one of his finest and most continuously listenable scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2013 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

You feel better now, taking the effort to be a smarty?

As I mentioned, if Star Trek III can get released, so can COCOON - and it will sell.

There are people on this board who still want "Another 48 HRS" -

I prefer Horner when he writes for symphonic orchestra - rather than his "Commando" style of writing.

Having said that - Cocoon: The Return is not a rip off, it's an extension! And the orchestrations used in the sequel, were improved upon!

Listen to the unreleased Main Title Cue in the film, and you will know what I am talking about, if you don't, then simply - put a sock in it!

Let the soundtrack labels do what they DO BEST - MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY ABOUT BEING ALIVE!

People like you make me wish I was dead! No body is forcing you to buy it, you twit!!

 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2013 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

"People like you make me wish I was dead!"

Please, grow up!

Come on, even the swing band music is just a rehash of the original!

You're correct though: If Star Trek III got a new release ... another of Horner's lazy sequel scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2013 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Did you end up buying Star Trek III?

 
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