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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)


The iconic Superman Character hasn't got a theme in this film




Utter bullshit. If it was a snake it'd bite you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)


The iconic Superman Character hasn't got a theme in this film




Utter bullshit. If it was a snake it'd bite you.


An amorphous snake biting someone? That's new.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Just listened through this for the first time, and it was okay. The action music was as expected, functional but nothing to write home about. The most interesting parts were the theme used previously in the trailer, and the softer, quieter moments which are limited. Might pick up some power upon second listen, or once I see the movie, like "Batman Begins" did.

Unless something changes, my prefered way to listen to the score would be in Zimmer's half-hour demo suite on disc 2. It has all the major ideas, and since the score proper was processed within a hair of its life, the demo sounds the same as the orchestra.

One thing I did like was that the booklet was full of pictures of the performers - moreso than pictures of the movie, at least in the special edition. Of course none of those pictures were of the actual orchestra (lol) but it is nice to see a release focusing more on the music than the film, IMO.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)




LIMITED DELUXE EDITION

DISC 1
1. Look to the Stars 2:58
2. Oil Rig 1:45
3. Sent Here for a Reason 3:46
4. DNA 3:34
5. Goodbye My Son 2:01
6. If You Love These People 3:22
7. Krypton's Last 1:58
8. Terraforming 9:49
9. Tornado 2:55
10. You Die or I Do 3:13
11. Launch 2:36
12. Ignition 1:19
13. I Will Find Him 2:57
14. This Is Clark Kent 3:47
15. I Have So Many Questions 3:47
16. Flight 4:18
17. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? 5:27
TOTAL TIME - 59:32

DISC 2
01. Man of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook) 28:16
02. Are You Listening, Clark?
03. General Zod
04. You Led Us Here
05. This Is Madness!
06. Earth
07. Arcade

GRAND TOTAL TIME - 1:54:57


The movie bounces around so much in time that it is hard to figure, but surely the tracks as listed are not in film order?????

8. Terraforming which is at the end of the film listed before 9. Tornado which is in the first half of the film. Isn't it?????

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Well, I've seen the film; I saw it last Friday and I really didn't think much of it. The third act, with 45 minutes or so of overblown CGI destruction and fighting and apocalypse and stuff blowing up and buildings toppling like dominoes and gosh-wow-whizzbang, is probably the most boring 45 minutes of cinema I've seen in several years.

As for the score, I didn't like it in the film - it was a nothing score that made you wish you were hearing John Williams - and having played the album (the 1-disc version) on Spotify this afternoon, it's no better as a standalone listen. I'm not hearing any tunes or any melodies, certainly none that have stuck in my mind. Yes, I know that's what Da Kidz want these days, but that doesn't make it any good.

Whan Zimmer's Man Of Steel sounds like more than anything else is a karaoke album. The CD sounds like the score minus the melodic instruments, and I can imagine playing the CD at home and improvising tunes to go on top of it. You've got the rhythm, you've got a bass note to give you some indication of the key, but you have to put in the flute line or the viola line or the banjo line. But I can't imagine anyone actually sitting down and listening to MoS as music. I genuinely don't get it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

The movie bounces around so much in time that it is hard to figure, but surely the tracks as listed are not in film order?????

8. Terraforming which is at the end of the film listed before 9. Tornado which is in the first half of the film. Isn't it?????


Very, VERY few score albums - apart from those released by the niche labels - are in film order.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)

Okay so what is the next question????

What order of the tracks IS in proper film order. Anyone want to take a stab at that?

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Liked this...think I'm allowed to post this?

http://www.avforums.com/movies/Man-of-Steel-Soundtrack--Deluxe-Edition-review_11264/soundtrack.html

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Liked this...think I'm allowed to post this?

http://www.avforums.com/movies/Man-of-Steel-Soundtrack--Deluxe-Edition-review_11264/soundtrack.html


YOR understand that some people are able to like this abominable wall of noise.

But 8 out of 10 stars?

That is just preposterous.

How many stars would he give to "The Thin Red Line", Zimmer's best score? 38?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   facehugger   (Member)

Liked this...think I'm allowed to post this?

http://www.avforums.com/movies/Man-of-Steel-Soundtrack--Deluxe-Edition-review_11264/soundtrack.html


YOR understand that some people are able to like this abominable wall of noise.

But 8 out of 10 stars?

That is just preposterous.

How many stars would he give to "The Thin Red Line", Zimmer's best score? 38?


Considering that Zimmer's "best score" is not really different from his worst, I'd say 8.01/10 for Thin Red Line.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Just saw the film, and now listening to the score for the first time. I definitely hear a Superman theme (I can spell it out [might not be 100% accurate] if you like - C-E-G, C-E-G-Ab, C-E-G-A, C-E-G-B? [I think], Eb-D-C). Zimmer's music is usually tied more closely to the film, so I waited until I had watched it until I gave the album a listen.

This reminds me of a situation in where someone had edited the Tumbler Chase scene from Batman Begins with Elfman's 89 Batman music. I started to stream the video and thought "oh man, this'll be great!" But as I watched it, the tone just wasn't right. I think the 89 Batman soundtrack is one of Elfman's best works, but the feel of the music and the overall tone of the movie clashed with each other instead of meshing; it was a distraction that took me out of the movie. That is how I feel it is with Williams' original music vs. Zimmer's Man Of Steel. Williams' soundtrack is unquestionably a masterpiece. But the tone of his music just might not work with this more realistic, more human Superman film. Zimmer's music, while less melodic, sets the mood much better in this film. Would I love a big, heroic intro for Superman? Absolutely. But it might not have worked out in Man Of Steel.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)

One reviewer claimed the main theme was two notes long. Two Entire Notes. And they say Zimmer is not a genius........

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Liked this...think I'm allowed to post this?

http://www.avforums.com/movies/Man-of-Steel-Soundtrack--Deluxe-Edition-review_11264/soundtrack.html


Even in case you didn't like it.
(but anyway your review is delightful)

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2013 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Liked this...think I'm allowed to post this?

http://www.avforums.com/movies/Man-of-Steel-Soundtrack--Deluxe-Edition-review_11264/soundtrack.html


Even in case you didn't like it.
(but anyway your review is delightful)


Not my review.. I can't write half as well as that..but i do agree with pretty much most of it. Just wanted to share a nice positive opinion of the score to counter the extremely vocal postings of everyone's favourite 'hunter from the future' !

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

What order of the tracks IS in proper film order. Anyone want to take a stab at that?

The general consensus seems to be somewhere along the lines of:

CD1: 01. Look to the Stars [02:58]
CD1: 04. DNA [03:34]
CD1: 05. Goodbye My Son [02:01]
CD1: 12. Ignition [01:19]
CD1: 11. Launch [02:36]
CD1: 13. I Will Find Him [02:57]
CD1: 07. Krypton's Last [01:58]
CD1: 02. Oil Rig [01:45]
CD2: 02. Are You Listening, Clark? [02:49]
CD1: 03. Sent Here for a Reason [03:46]
CD1: 15. I Have So Many Questions [03:47]
CD1: 16. Flight [04:18]
CD1: 09. Tornado [02:53]
CD2: 04. You Led Us Here [02:59]
CD2: 07. Arcade [07:25]
CD2: 03. General Zod [07:21]
CD1: 08. Terraforming [09:49]
CD1: 10. You Die or I Do [03:13]
CD1: 06. If You Love These People [03:22]
CD1: 17. What Are You Going to Do When You Are Not Saving the World? [05:27]

Then possibly unused...

CD1: 14. This is Clark Kent [03:47]
CD2: 01. Man of Steel (Hans' Original Sketchbook) [28:16]
CD2: 05. This is Madness! [03:48]
CD2: 06. Earth [06:11

I'm not sure this is spot on personally.....I think the track "General Zod" appear in a couple of places...hacked up a little...but the jury is still out on this order so please don't regard this as gospel - more of a work in progress.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

I started to stream the video and thought "oh man, this'll be great!" But as I watched it, the tone just wasn't right. I think the 89 Batman soundtrack is one of Elfman's best works, but the feel of the music and the overall tone of the movie clashed with each other instead of meshing; it was a distraction that took me out of the movie. That is how I feel it is with Williams' original music vs. Zimmer's Man Of Steel. Williams' soundtrack is unquestionably a masterpiece. But the tone of his music just might not work with this more realistic, more human Superman film. Zimmer's music, while less melodic, sets the mood much better in this film.

You gotta be kidding. More human? More realistic? What could be LESS human and LESS "realistic" (this is a superhero movie, right????) than THIS?!

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)

Never the less a HUGE help. Thank you much!

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

You gotta be kidding. More human? More realistic? What could be LESS human and LESS "realistic" (this is a superhero movie, right????) than THIS?!

The character of Superman is more human. Perhaps if I had said he's not the perfect boy scout like he has been portrayed in comics and films of the past I'd have gotten my point across better.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Scott McC   (Member)

I saw the film last weekend and found it a strangely uninvolving affair with the action becoming somewhat monotonous as the battle raged amongst the skyscrapers. As for the score, I was very disappointed with what I heard and (based on the trailers), had hoped/expected so much more. In summary, I found the music jarring, tonally uninteresting and almost bereft of any tangible (or hummable) theme. It’s only at the end of the film that the power anthem (as I’ve heard it referred) is fully quoted which to me at least seemed too little too late. I thought that I would almost certainly purchase the score album, but that will not be happening now.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2013 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

The formula:

SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE - Krypton & Smallville sequences
SUPERMAN ii - Battle of the super villians done in the style
of TRANSFORMERS cgi destruction

equals MAN OF STEEL
brm

 
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