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 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

I'm sure this idiotic thread just really warms the cockles of MV Gerhard's heart.
Just want any hard working producer wants to see, posts of 'I'm not buying your
record' spurred by some nefarious weirdo blacklist agenda......


Most of the posts I've read here, including the original, seem to be with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I think most are just speaking about why they would or wouldn't buy this in a respectful way. Is it possible you're misreading the intentions? I for one read Baz's initial post and got a little smile, knowing it's just his love for this particular score that fuels his in-cheek post.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)



big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

It's bought and paid for.

IMO, disregarding ANY age of film music is being just a part-time film music fan and not one of any serious merit!

One can certainly have preferences and criticisms, but one ought to "listen" all the same.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Interestingly, at the time of writing, the TOP WEEKLY TITLES list at SAE reads:

#4 Gunfight at the OK Corral
#5 Lethal Weapon
#7 Superman Returns
#8 Police Academy

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   crogrr   (Member)

This watermelon is really, Really Tasty! And - it's seedless!!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

For the record, I think it's great LaLa put the care into this title,
am very happy for the Golden Agers, support (or used to, not as much
these days) that era, get the tongue in cheekness of the OP, but think
the tone of "your an idiot if you don't buy this" is off putting.
Like Jonathan Little, I'm happy with the Bernstein FMC recording and to
be honest play Pharaohs more than Gunfight.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


In regards to the Bernstein LP of OK Corral, I think the performance is just fair.

The CD will have THE Tiomkin performance, I think it's hard to re-record Tiomkin.

Plus the CD has a lot more music.

But hey, that's just me! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I was going to buy a copy, but this thread has persuaded me to change my mind. LLL - you know who to thank...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Interestingly, at the time of writing, the TOP WEEKLY TITLES list at SAE reads:

#4 Gunfight at the OK Corral
#5 Lethal Weapon
#7 Superman Returns
#8 Police Academy




Also Rozsa is on the top TOP WEEKLY SALES two times!

Maybe some fans are starting to appreciate the high quality of many golden age scores! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I have not heard this score before, and even if I had, I can't afford to plunk down for limited editions right now. And even if I did, I have about a dozen or more personal grails to catch up on first once I do fall into a bunch of cash.

So, I am not buying it for reasons aforementioned.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I was going to buy a copy, but this thread has persuaded me to change my mind. LLL - you know who to thank...



Ah Tall Guy, no one will change my mind, I AM buying the Tiomkin cd.

I'm living in the 1940s and 1950s! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

why would anyone buy a score that's just "OK"?! And with singing (Chorral) too?!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

why would anyone buy a score that's just "OK"?! And with singing (Chorral) too?!



Just "OK" can be amazing!

As Sam Jaffe said in The Asphalt Jungle: "It's all a matter of the mind." smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   LEONCIO   (Member)

If I were a millionaire, like Mr. Bill Gates, I most certainly would buy these titles and many more. I am unemployed and I have I have my priorities in terms of soundtracks refers Dimitri Tiomkin and although I quite like and I know this soundtrack, Gunfight at the OK Corral will have to wait and if the 2000 titles is exhausted, nothing happens. Bad luck and will again.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Who could turn Tiomkin down?

I did. Actually I admit that even if I own over 1400 soundtracks I do not own anything by Dimitri Tiomkin. Well, Basil and other Golden Age fans I admit that I do not have anything by any of the other composers that worked during the golden age, well not even anything by Bernard Herrmann (if you don`t count the Cape Fear remake soundtrack).

By the way I did order both the Lethal Weapon box AND the Police Academy soundtrack so I`m fine with only these (as well as my wallet).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Just "OK" can be amazing!

then it was poorly marketed, and should have been "Gunfight at the Amazing! Technicolor! Corral!"

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

I do not have anything by any of the other composers that worked during the golden age, well not even anything by Bernard Herrmann

Your loss entirely. Someone who doesn't have a single score by the single most important film composer in history is dead to me.

I won't buy OK Corral either, but that's because I have the Bernstein Collection suite, as well the Kunzel recording of the "extended" ballad with Frankie Lane, and the rest of the music isn't all that special.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Someone who doesn't have a single score by the single most important film composer in history is dead to me.

Well, that reminds me of a discussion I once had with a guest lecturer when I went to film school some years back. He preferred Bernard Herrmann over Jerry Goldsmith because Jerry Goldsmith did not orchestrate his own scores. To my ears that sounded like the worsed excuse to prefer something over the other. At least up until I saw your post. Herrmann may have been the most important composer in history but that does not mean that I have to like his scores. I love the scores of Jerry Goldsmith but just because I love those scores does not mean that everyone else have to. So with that in mind I feel great to be dead to you.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

So you're just in for the "like it/not like it". That's fine, but it means you'll never EVER get a grasp of what film music history is all about. Or music history. Or history.

Again, that's fine. It's just that some people want to get an overall picture of "what it's all about". Many don't.

 
 Posted:   Dec 4, 2013 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I do not have anything by any of the other composers that worked during the golden age, well not even anything by Bernard Herrmann

Your loss entirely. Someone who doesn't have a single score by the single most important film composer in history is dead to me.

I won't buy OK Corral either, but that's because I have the Bernstein Collection suite, as well the Kunzel recording of the "extended" ballad with Frankie Lane, and the rest of the music isn't all that special.


While the Kunzel recording was ambitious and did a fine job of representing the score (better, I thought, than the Bernstein re-recording), it unfortunately caught Frankie Laine at a point in his life where his vocal talents had diminished pretty significantly. For me it is hard to listen to, remembering how strong his voice had been at its peak and hearing how he was straining to reach the high notes and stay on pitch. Having heard repeatedly that the GUNFIGHT original tapes no longer existed, I was resigned to the Kunzel recording as the final word on this score. It may not be my favorite score, or even my favorite Tiomkin score for that matter, but the unanticipated opportunity, at long last, to capture the original film version of the song and score is one I just couldn't pass up.

GUNFIGHT is unquestionably a period piece, and if the period or genre doesn't connect with some folks on a personal level, that's fine with me. They won't be competing with me for a copy of this one, and I won't be competing with them for copies of any of the other LLL releases in this batch.

I have to add, as a film music enthusiast in general, that this has probably been the most spectacular set of releases ever, and I tip my hat to LLL for hitting such a broad range of tastes in one amazing shot. Thanks for remembering us Golden Agers when putting your package together!

 
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