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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

My review of the album, if anyone's interested:

http://www.movie-wave.net/the-amazing-spider-man-2/

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   MattyO   (Member)

Yeah, it's the same old Zimmer schtick here - parading new ways of making noise around as something fresh, new, exciting, brilliant. Sure, there are moments, but this a far cry from the Zimmer of old and a major step down from Horner's score. I hope what happened is Horner had the good sense to say no to scoring this time around.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

I hope what happened is Horner had the good sense to say no to scoring this time around.

Actually, he had only signed on for one film to begin with. Apparently he just wasn't too interested in it and didn't actively seek to come back.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Great review James. Nailed it perfectly.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Great review James. Nailed it perfectly.

Agreed!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

I immensly loved (and still love!) all Zimmer superhero soundtracks. And it's beeen a crescendo! DK more than BB, DK Rises more than DK, and recently MoS more than DK Rises.
But honestly I wasn't expecting maestro Zimmer to keep forever high such music solutions, sound harmonies, and sounds complexity (infact Lone Ranger, so conventional, bit disappointed me in its second part). It happens!

But this ASM2 sounds so damn good and I'm electrified by it!
And if Pharrels tweets about Hans an eloquent "He is a genius", who am I to contradict him?!

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

But this ASM2 sounds so damn good and I'm electrified by it!
And if Pharrels tweets about Hans an eloquent "He is a genius", who am I to contradict him?!


I've listened to this "score" today, and as a guy who spends his money buying it, I'm sorry to contradict, but this is maybe the worst thing I've heard in my entire life!

I thought it couldn't be possible to achieve such a bad and low level, or destroy the music of another franchise in such a rude and tasteless manner, but obviously it is...

The fanfare is good, but except for a very few incidental moments, this so called "genius" apparently thinks we are morons. I don't mind the harsh industrial electronic soundscape, but these VOICES ARE UNBEARABLE!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Concerning the supposed dearth of symphonic scores for these types of motion pictures:

THE AVENGERS
CAPTAIN AMERICA
SPIDERMAN 2
X-MEN 2.....
are some of the superhero films that are mainly symphonice (And all good!)
There are others too.

Variety is good for you!
bruce


Hmm, well their all unmemorable. Give me William's Superman, Horner's Rocketeer, Elfman's Batman, even Powell's X3. Or better yet Debney's Lair! Now that's super music. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   willymcnilly   (Member)

Listened to the album today. First off, James Southall, how much did Hans pay you to give this a four star review? This score barely makes me peek through a couple of fingers of my two hands that are covering my embarrassed face concerning the state of film music for these types of movies.

Secondly, Hans, when are you going to stop keeping the $4999999 of the 5 million dollar music budget (or whatever it was) and using only $1 to produce a score on your $25 keyboard. You know you can write a couple of lines of music for an orchestra that can sound a heck of a lot of better than what you did here. I know, I know, you did it before, but it still sounded like a keyboard. Yes, you say you use a trumpet and an oboe that appeared for a total time of 30 seconds - this doesn't really count. You don't have to write 100 simultaneous lines of orchestration for orchestra like John Williams does. Yes, you are a genius, but only in relation to whoever wrote the dreck scores to robocop and winter soldier recently.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Maybe it's because I'm an Elfman fan, or maybe because I hear voices, but I kind of love those Electro-whispers. It's almost a perfect amalgam — the mock-classical orchestral oboe part representing the geek side of Electro's pre-super powers, mixed with the overpowering fuzz and grooves of dub-step for his villainous turn. The whispers are no less a motivational music device than a choir, female vocals, chorus, boy solo or solo instrument. There's only one composer who could get away with this and well, he has!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

The latest edition of TIME magazine (April 21, 2014) has a story on Sonny Moore (aka "Skrillex"), who produces electronic dance music. A sub-story on digital distortion and noise now being deliberately used in pop music songs is briefly summed up: "Noise has become to popular music what civet is to perfume: the nasty stuff that perks up everything else."

Seems to me, at least, that film scoring has been following this path for a while now - memorable themes being replaced by unmemorable noise, with the target audience being much the same as those who follow the current pop music scene.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Listened to the album today. First off, James Southall, how much did Hans pay you to give this a four star review? This score barely makes me peek through a couple of fingers of my two hands that are covering my embarrassed face concerning the state of film music for these types of movies.

What makes you think he paid Southall? I'm convinced James was tied up in a basement having the Horn of Doom played on loop at maximum volume until he agreed to give it a decent review.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

In my first post, I said: "I welcome all opinions on the music, but I ask everyone to present their viewpoints constructively and with respect".

Seems like some of the last few posts have ignored that altogether. Expected, I guess, but still disappointing.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Maybe it's because I'm an Elfman fan, or maybe because I hear voices, but I kind of love those Electro-whispers. It's almost a perfect amalgam — the mock-classical orchestral oboe part representing the geek side of Electro's pre-super powers, mixed with the overpowering fuzz and grooves of dub-step for his villainous turn. The whispers are no less a motivational music device than a choir, female vocals, chorus, boy solo or solo instrument. There's only one composer who could get away with this and well, he has!

Well said, Ryan. I was thinking the same thing concerning the voices.

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

In my first post, I said: "I welcome all opinions on the music, but I ask everyone to present their viewpoints constructively and with respect".

Seems like some of the last few posts have ignored that altogether. Expected, I guess, but still disappointing.


Fair enough, I was a bit childish in my response to Southall's review and I apologize. For what it's worth, I don't think that everything that Zimmer does is terrible and do really enjoy some of his scores. This one, however, *really* doesn't do it for me.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   stay-puft   (Member)

Listened to the album today. First off, James Southall, how much did Hans pay you to give this a four star review? This score barely makes me peek through a couple of fingers of my two hands that are covering my embarrassed face concerning the state of film music for these types of movies.

Secondly, Hans, when are you going to stop keeping the $4999999 of the 5 million dollar music budget (or whatever it was) and using only $1 to produce a score on your $25 keyboard. You know you can write a couple of lines of music for an orchestra that can sound a heck of a lot of better than what you did here. I know, I know, you did it before, but it still sounded like a keyboard. Yes, you say you use a trumpet and an oboe that appeared for a total time of 30 seconds - this doesn't really count. You don't have to write 100 simultaneous lines of orchestration for orchestra like John Williams does. Yes, you are a genius, but only in relation to whoever wrote the dreck scores to robocop and winter soldier recently.


30 seconds...oh my. 30% is more like it

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

In my first post, I said: "I welcome all opinions on the music, but I ask everyone to present their viewpoints constructively and with respect".

Seems like some of the last few posts have ignored that altogether. Expected, I guess, but still disappointing.


Fair enough, I was a bit childish in my response to Southall's review and I apologize. For what it's worth, I don't think that everything that Zimmer does is terrible and do really enjoy some of his scores. This one, however, *really* doesn't do it for me.

Chris


I didn't have you in mind, Chris. You formulated your opinions in a constructive fashion.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   willymcnilly   (Member)

In my first post, I said: "I welcome all opinions on the music, but I ask everyone to present their viewpoints constructively and with respect".

Seems like some of the last few posts have ignored that altogether. Expected, I guess, but still disappointing.


I apologize. First of all, I appreciate James Southall and his reviews and read them all the time, and secondly I do like some of Hans Zimmer's music, but this latest score still sounds like it was written on a cheap synthesizer. Zimmer can write music, no question about it, but why does he want to make it sound so cheap? As a pianist myself, I abhor non-acoustic instrumentation and call synthesizers toy pianos.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Thor, what is your take on the score? I have to say I was surprised to see Southall giving it four stars, but it's the type of score you either take to or don't. Maybe seeing it in the context of the movie will make me appreciate it more, but on album it didn't quite take off for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Listened to the album today. First off, James Southall, how much did Hans pay you to give this a four star review?

One pound fifty and a packet of Monster Munch.

 
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