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 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile

But seriously, I just downloaded a few tracks from this album and it sounds great to me (though they could let the guy with the cymbals sit in the studio rather than down the road). Very smooth, natural sound, great playing. I don't have any real comparisons, but I think I'd know if something were wrong. Interested to hear other opinions.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile




Only the music my friend, only the music! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile



Only the music my friend, only the music! smile



C'mon now, you won't hear much music in the closet. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile



Only the music my friend, only the music! smile



C'mon now, you won't hear much music in the closet. smile




No closet for me. I'll admit it, I have a crush on Katherine Jenkins! Check her out on Youtube! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile


Only the music my friend, only the music! smile


C'mon now, you won't hear much music in the closet. smile


No closet for me. I'll admit it, I have a crush on Katherine Jenkins! Check her out on Youtube! smile


...smokescreen...smokescreen... smile

Nah, I won't stir you anymore. It was fun though.

Now, what was this thread about again...?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I want less Sabu ........ and more Rozsa! smile

So you like older men? smile


Only the music my friend, only the music! smile


C'mon now, you won't hear much music in the closet. smile


No closet for me. I'll admit it, I have a crush on Katherine Jenkins! Check her out on Youtube! smile


...smokescreen...smokescreen... smile

Nah, I won't stir you anymore. It was fun though.

Now, what was this thread about again...?[/endquote




This thread was about a "new" Rozsa cd that's 80 minutes long and we already have 73 minutes of it!
frown

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 10:42 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I bought the RCA Sabu in its original 78 RPM form at a church tag sale, and I treasure it. But I am glad that it was recorded at least once without the narration. Yes perhaps the repetitions could have been deleted here and there, but it's wonderful to be able to revel in this ravishing music unencumbered by verbiage, when I'm in the mood to do so. And it contains music not available anywhere else, even on that great Film Music Society album from the acetates.

Incidentally, John, do you remember that RCA tried to "shoehorn" not one but TWO different Leo Genn narrations into the THIEF suite? At one time or another both versions have surfaced...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2014 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



Which is spiritedly performed and listenably recorded but not excellent on either count.


Not to mention...as I mentioned above....separated into tracks instead of one 30 minute thing.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2014 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Samples:

http://www.theclassicalshop.net%2FDetails.aspx%3FCatalogueNumber%3DCHAN%252010806


Now this is unquestionably audiophile. EVERY instrument is clear as a bell, yet mixed.

Brilliant sound, brilliant performance. The 'Ben-Hur' Prelude is as sensuous as it should be because somebody knows JUST where to plant the horns. You can even hear them in that sort of orgasmic collapse between the 'Judah' theme's climax and the love theme, and frankly, in many recordings you can't. In fact they're only clear in the OST, the Savina .... and here.

And the oriental suites are perfect. really spirited and sensuous.

This is one great one.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2014 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

This thread was about a "new" Rozsa cd that's 80 minutes long and we already have 73 minutes of it!
frown


The way I see it is that this is potentially Volume One of a digital Polydor-like series, with brilliant performances and recording. The fact that a SAHARA suite premieres on this volume makes one wonder what other goodies Chandos may have in store for us.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2014 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Lets us hope so! There is, however, one major difference. Both the RCA and the Polydor series involved a great deal of original score preparation by Christopher Palmer and others. Music lost or destroyed by the studios had to be reconstructed from sketches and conductor books. It was a heroic and expensive project that had to be completed before a note could be recorded. As late as 1972, Rozsa didn't think such work would ever be done.

Chandos, so far, appears to be working entirely from existing materials. Well, it's a start.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2014 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Bill Cooke   (Member)

The tempo set for "The SIlver Maid's Dance" is a little plodding for my taste, but otherwise, these samples sound fantastic. It doesn't matter that I own other versions of THIEF, JB and B-H, this new issue proves that music this great deserves be performed again and again.

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)


Chandos, so far, appears to be working entirely from existing materials. Well, it's a start.




That's the way Chandos works, as a rule. Their ethos is that if a suite exists, then that represents the composer's intent, and it does make everything easier. I think they always use published suites. They also tend to favour established or famous films. Remember, this is a classical label, and their intent is for the bigger profile. You may say, 'only 5,000 copies?' but Chandos feature greatly in trade mags, radio broadcasts in the UK, and concert material ideas for conductors.

But that's no limitation. All the Polydor suites are somewhere in MS.. The RPO recently recorded the Polydor 'Lost Weekend' suite again, and John Waxman has some.

Maybe there could be new recordings of the Oscar-winning 'Double Life' suite, the Spellbound Concerto (yes, it would need to be there for a representative collection for Chandos' sake), the RCA suites themselves, and the Polydor, the old Nuremberg epic suites, the Silva material, the 'Julius Caesar' suite ... the list is endless. Plus the recent reconstructions by people like Daniel Robbins for Intrada etc.. And if they all sound like this, with a top layer orchestra, then it'd be great.

You should also remember that they've done at least one FULL score, Korngold's 'Sea Wolf'. That had a more echoey acoustic than they're using now, but they did it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2014 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

All the Polydor suites are somewhere in MS.

It would be lovely to think so. But inquiries in recent years have failed to locate these precious materials. It's hard to believe that hundreds of hours of labor and thousands of pages of music (re-created at huge cost) would have been tossed out after a single use. But then we've seen that sort of thing happen to movie scores before, haven't we? I certainly hope the scores are "somewhere" safe. Waxman's company, Themes and Variations (tnv.com), lists very little Rozsa.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2014 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Frank DeWald   (Member)

Chandos is now offering a copy of Rozsa's autobiography, DOUBLE LIFE, to the first 50 people who order directly from the label. The official release date is March but the disc will be available from Chandos around Monday Feb. 17. In order to qualify to receive a book orders must be made by phone to 01206 225220 or by email to dmartin@chandos.net.

The performances are wonderful and the selection -- at just over 80 minutes -- is very generous!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2014 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Also worth noting, theclassicalshop.net is not only offering this album in lossless flac, but also in HD (24 bit/96 kHz). If you are purchasing the HD download, you get the CD resoluation and MP3 download for free. I'm currently loading - this should sound marvelous!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2014 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't have to book so thanks for the heads up, Frank! Email sent -- any idea how Chandos ended up with 50 copies of A Double Life? I thought it was out of print for one thing...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2014 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

Also worth noting, theclassicalshop.net is not only offering this album in lossless flac, but also in HD (24 bit/96 kHz). If you are purchasing the HD download, you get the CD resoluation and MP3 download for free. I'm currently loading - this should sound marvelous!

It does. It also means they have a much, much higher profit margin than via iTunes, Amazon, SAE or still existing CD stores. Where in the end most of the money is pocketed by the distribution scheme used.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2014 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

Samples:

http://www.theclassicalshop.net%2FDetails.aspx%3FCatalogueNumber%3DCHAN%252010806


Now this is unquestionably audiophile. EVERY instrument is clear as a bell, yet mixed.

Brilliant sound, brilliant performance. The 'Ben-Hur' Prelude is as sensuous as it should be because somebody knows JUST where to plant the horns. You can even hear them in that sort of orgasmic collapse between the 'Judah' theme's climax and the love theme, and frankly, in many recordings you can't. In fact they're only clear in the OST, the Savina .... and here.

And the oriental suites are perfect. really spirited and sensuous.

This is one great one.


Agree completely. Maybe the finest produced Rozsa film music compilation since the Polydor series.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2014 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

I'm guessing this is the paperback version of the first edition (the one with more pictures). Copies turned up in a warehouse a couple of years ago, and the publisher offered them at a large discount. We publicized this to Rozsa Society members at the time.

 
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